From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file
Date: 19 Dec 2001 19:30:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9vrm1f$mde$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m14rmnw6p3.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112191153280.11104-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
Followup to: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112191153280.11104-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
By author: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> On 19 Dec 2001, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> > I have alarm bells ringing in my gut saying there are pieces of your
> > proposal that are on the edge of being overly complex... But without
> > source I can't really say. Arbitrary NULL padding between images is
> > cool but why?
>
> Alignment that might be wanted by loaders. Take that with hpa - for
> all I care it's a non-issue. while(!*p) p++; added before p = handle_part(p);
> in the main loop...
>
Examples on allowing NULL padding makes life easier for the
bootloader, because it can pick its own alignment:
a) A bootloader uses INT 15h AH=87h to move things to high memory.
This function can only move 16-bit words.
b) SYSLINUX' builting high bcopy routine can only move 32-bit words.
c) If a boot loader runs in protected mode, it may want to operate on
4K pages only.
d) A block-oriented boot loader like LILO can simply concatentate the
blocks of multiple files together (as long as it can make sure
the slop is zeroed out.)
It's an insignificant addition to the kernel that allows the
bootloader to be potentially significantly simpler, by removing the
corner cases. This is a Good Thing[TM].
-hpa
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[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112190313080.9963-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-12-19 8:47 ` Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-19 14:55 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-19 15:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-19 17:03 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-19 19:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-20 3:30 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-12-23 7:20 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-23 9:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-23 9:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 21:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2001-12-18 20:35 Torrey Hoffman
2001-12-18 19:50 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 20:26 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 20:30 ` M. R. Brown
2001-12-18 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-19 9:34 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-23 1:02 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 9:10 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-19 14:13 ` Erik Mouw
2001-12-18 17:47 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 18:53 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 19:43 ` David Weinehall
2001-12-18 17:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 18:45 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 18:49 ` Greg KH
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.21.0112180350550.6100-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>
2001-12-18 11:16 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-18 19:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-19 9:27 ` James A Sutherland
2001-12-19 10:11 ` Erik Andersen
2001-12-23 0:39 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 0:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 1:15 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 1:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 2:08 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-17 22:10 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-18 2:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-18 5:46 ` Craig Christophel
2001-12-23 0:28 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 0:44 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 1:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 2:10 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-23 3:00 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 3:52 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-23 4:41 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-12-23 5:52 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 7:16 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-12-23 8:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 12:22 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-12-23 20:58 ` Erik Mouw
2001-12-17 19:53 Grover, Andrew
2001-12-17 20:26 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-16 20:37 Otto Wyss
2001-12-16 20:50 ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-17 18:49 ` Otto Wyss
2001-12-17 19:07 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-12-20 18:47 ` Otto Wyss
2001-12-16 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-16 22:02 ` antirez
2001-12-16 22:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 0:08 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 6:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-12-23 13:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-23 17:57 ` Dave Cinege
2001-12-23 23:05 ` Marcus Meissner
2001-12-24 2:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-27 10:58 ` Wilfried Weissmann
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