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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Paolo Giarrusso" <p.giarrusso@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <borislav.petkov@amd.com>,
	"Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de>,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff Dike" <jdike@addtoit.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] x86, hweight: Fix UML boot crash
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:37:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTinMHWI0xGRW-clKm5O91c0QdMG5tDNf3jvUB8Ij@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100612163444.GC28572@liondog.tnic>

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 18:34, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> From: Paolo Giarrusso <p.giarrusso@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 06:01:44PM +0200
>
>> >> First, ARCH_HWEIGHT_CFLAGS should IMHO be shared with UML. I.e., moved
>> >> to arch/x86/Kconfig.cpu (which was born as Kconfig code shared with
>> >> UML), or copied in UML (it's not defined, as far as I can see).
>> >> Otherwise it just can't work. And I think that's it.
>>
>> Just to be sure: by "that's it" I meant "this is the problem".
>> You didn't answer here - did you see it? What do you think? Can you
>> try the one-line fix at some point?
>> Just to make it clear: I've not been actively developing UML (or
>> almost anything in kernel space) for ages (~4 years), so it's unlikely
>> that I'll try fixing this. It just happens that things on the UML
>> front stayed mostly the same, so I thought that my knowledge of the
>> code is still useful.
>
> Cool :). However, according to Geert, this doesn't fix it:
>
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=127522065202435&w=2
>
> It could be related to the -mregparm being broken on 32-bit UML since
> Geert's UML "guest" is 32-bit. However, even if we fix this, it won't

No, guest and host are both x86_64.

> be used since, as you said, UML doesn't do alternatives. Which means
> that it doesn't make sense fixing it until there are no alternatives -
> instead, we should simply fall back to the software hweight* stuff and
> be done with it.
>
>> > In that case, fixing this is either by rerouting the includes
>> > (easiest, already in -tip) or adding alternatives support (harder,
>> > needs volunteers :)).
>>
>> Well, even doing just nothing should work, if you fix the trivial
>> thing above (which at least for 64bit should work).
>
> See above.
>
>> >> A third note is that UML links with glibc, so it can have a different
>> >> calling convention from the kernel. Say, on x86 32bit regparm doesn't
>> >> work (in fact, -mregparm is set in arch/x86/Makefile and not in
>> >> arch/x86/Makefile_32.cpu). And since popcnt is supported on 32bit, it
>> >> might in theory make a difference for that case. But maybe those flags
>> >> are simply fine, I didn't recheck the possible calling conventions.
>>
>> > If this is also the case, the -fcall-saved-* stuff won't work on UML and
>> > yet another way of doing "call *func" from within asm("...") and making
>> > sure the callee doesn't clobber caller's regs will be needed for UML.
>>
>> Hmpf... anyway, 64bit should be fine since there's just one calling
>> convention, everywhere, and already regparm'ed.
>
> Right, as I said, this would leave 32-bit broken which doesn't cut it
> either for a subset of people using UML.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-12 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27 17:44 current git kernel crashes UML system during boot Toralf Förster
2010-05-30 11:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-30 11:57   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-30 15:02     ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-30 15:18       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-30 15:46         ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-30 15:28       ` Toralf Förster
2010-05-30 17:03         ` [PATCH] x86, hweight: Fix UML boot crash Borislav Petkov
2010-05-30 18:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-30 19:39             ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-30 20:17               ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-30 21:09                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-12 13:34                   ` [uml-devel] " Paolo Giarrusso
2010-06-12 14:18                     ` Borislav Petkov
2010-06-12 16:01                       ` Paolo Giarrusso
2010-06-12 16:34                         ` Borislav Petkov
2010-06-12 18:37                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2010-06-13  6:58                             ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-31 13:55                 ` Toralf Förster
2010-05-31 14:10                   ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-31 14:36                     ` Toralf Förster
2010-06-14  9:49                     ` Toralf Förster
2010-06-14 10:26                       ` [uml-devel] " Paolo Giarrusso
2010-06-14 12:54                         ` Toralf Förster
2010-06-14 13:00                       ` Borislav Petkov
2010-06-14 13:44                         ` Toralf Förster
2010-06-14 14:39                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-14 15:11                             ` Toralf Förster
2010-06-14 15:20                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-05-31 14:25                   ` [uml-devel] " Boaz Harrosh
2010-05-31  2:32               ` Jeff Dike
2010-05-31 13:51                 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-31 15:56                   ` Jeff Dike
2010-05-31 16:29                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]           ` <tip-cc7f0a7b3004a4ca0bfef0e1ca79f2e0da6ca1b0@git.kernel.org>
2010-06-09 22:43             ` [tip:x86/urgent] " H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-10  5:32               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-10  6:26                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-09  8:04 ` [PATCH resend] um, " Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  8:09   ` [uml-devel] " Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  8:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-09  9:08       ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  9:32       ` Américo Wang
2010-06-09 18:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-14 16:08         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-14 16:41           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-14 18:18             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09 16:39   ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-10 23:43   ` [tip:x86/urgent] um, hweight: Fix UML boot crash due to x86 optimized hweight tip-bot for Borislav Petkov

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