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From: Arun Sharma <arun@sharma-home.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	eranian@gmail.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf events: Add stalled cycles generic event - PERF_COUNT_HW_STALLED_CYCLES
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:03:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTiko3bTCYP9oiX8KuQHQO0j2KtZ-mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110427154805.GB23494@elte.hu>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

>
>> The other issue I had to deal with was UOPS_RETIRED > UOPS_EXECUTED
>> condition. I believe this is caused by what AMD calls sideband stack
>> optimizer and Intel calls dedicated stack manager (i.e. UOPS executed outside
>> the main pipeline). A recursive fibonacci(30) is a good test case for
>> reproducing this.
>
> So the PORT015+234 sum is not precise? The definition seems to be rather firm:
>
>  Counts number of Uops executed that where issued on port 2, 3, or 4.
>  Counts number of Uops executed that where issued on port 0, 1, or 5.
>

There is some work done outside of the main out of order engine for
power optimization reasons:

Described as dedicated stack engine here:
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2003/volume07issue02/art03_pentiumm/vol7iss2_art03.pdf

However, I can't seem to be able to reproduce this behavior using a
micro benchmark right now:

# cat foo.s
.text
        .global main
main:
1:
        push %rax
        push %rbx
        push %rcx
        push %rdx
        pop  %rax
        pop  %rbx
        pop  %rcx
        pop  %rdx
        jmp  1b

 Performance counter stats for './foo':

     7,755,881,073 UOPS_ISSUED:ANY:t=1       (scaled from 79.98%)
    10,569,957,988 UOPS_RETIRED:ANY:t=1      (scaled from 79.96%)
     9,155,400,383 UOPS_EXECUTED:PORT234_CORE  (scaled from 80.02%)
     2,594,206,312 UOPS_EXECUTED:PORT015:t=1  (scaled from 80.02%)

Perhaps I was thinking of UOPS_ISSUED < UOPS_RETIRED.

In general, UOPS_RETIRED (or instruction retirement in general) is the
"source of truth" in an otherwise crazy world and might be more
interesting as a generalized event that works on multiple
architectures.

 -Arun

      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-27 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-22  8:47 [PATCH 1/1] perf tools: Add missing user space support for config1/config2 Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22  9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22  9:41   ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 10:52     ` [generalized cache events] " Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 12:04       ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 13:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 20:31           ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 20:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 12:13               ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-23 12:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 21:03             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 12:27               ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-22 16:51         ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 19:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-26  9:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-22 16:50       ` arun
2011-04-22 17:00         ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-22 20:30         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-22 20:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23  0:03             ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-23  7:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-23 12:06                 ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-23 12:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 13:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-25 18:48                     ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-25 19:40                     ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-25 19:55                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-24  2:15                   ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-24  2:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2011-04-25 17:41                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-25 18:00                     ` Dehao Chen
     [not found]                     ` <BANLkTiks31-pMJe4zCKrppsrA1d6KanJFA@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-25 18:05                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-25 18:39                         ` Stephane Eranian
2011-04-25 19:45                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23  8:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-23 20:14           ` [PATCH] perf events: Add stalled cycles generic event - PERF_COUNT_HW_STALLED_CYCLES Ingo Molnar
2011-04-24  6:16             ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-25 17:37               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-26  9:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-26 14:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 11:11               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 14:47                 ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-27 15:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 16:27                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-27 19:05                       ` Arun Sharma
2011-04-27 19:03                     ` Arun Sharma [this message]

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