From: "Riley Williams" <Riley@Williams.Name>
To: "Marc Wilson" <msw@cox.net>
Cc: "Linux Kernel List" <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Linux 2.4.21-rc6
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 08:15:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BKEGKPICNAKILKJKMHCAMEAPECAA.Riley@Williams.Name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030529055735.GB1566@moonkingdom.net>
Hi Marc.
>> The basic problem there is that any mail client needs to know
>> just how many messages are in a particular folder to handle that
>> folder, and the only way to do this is to count them all. That's
>> what takes the time when one opens a large folder.
> No, the basic problem there is that the kernel is deadlocking.
> Read the VERY long thread for the details.
>
> I think I have enough on the ball to be able to tell the difference
> between mutt opening a folder and counting messages, with a counter
> and percentage indicator advancing, and mutt sitting there
> deadlocked with the HD activity light stuck on and all the rest of
> X stuck tight.
I thought I was on the ball when a similar situation happened to me.
What I observed was that the counters and percentage indicators were
NOT advancing for about 30 seconds, and both would then jump up by
about 70 messages and the relevant percent rather than counting
smoothly through. It was only when I noticed those jumps that I went
back to basics and analysed the folder rather than the kernel.
However, I apologise profusely for assuming that my experience in what
to me appear to be similar circumstances to yours could have any sort
of bearing on the problem you are seeing.
> And it just happened again, so -rc6 is no sure fix. What did y'all
> that reported the problem had gone away do, patch -rc4 with the
> akpm patches?
In my case, I fixed the problem by splitting the relevant folder up,
as stated in my previous message. However, such a solution apparently
doesn't work for you, so I'm unable to help any further.
Best wishes from Riley.
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Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-29 0:55 Linux 2.4.21-rc6 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-29 1:22 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 5:24 ` Marc Wilson
2003-05-29 5:34 ` Riley Williams
2003-05-29 5:57 ` Marc Wilson
2003-05-29 7:15 ` Riley Williams [this message]
2003-05-29 8:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-29 8:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-06-03 16:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-03 16:13 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-04 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2003-06-05 2:10 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-03 16:30 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-03 16:53 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-06-03 16:59 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-03 17:03 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-03 18:02 ` Anders Karlsson
2003-06-03 21:12 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-06-03 21:18 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-03 17:23 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-04 14:56 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-06-04 4:04 ` Marc Wilson
2003-05-29 10:02 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 18:00 ` Georg Nikodym
2003-05-29 19:11 ` -rc7 " Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-29 19:56 ` Krzysiek Taraszka
2003-05-29 20:18 ` Krzysiek Taraszka
2003-06-04 18:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-06-04 21:41 ` Krzysiek Taraszka
2003-06-04 22:37 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 10:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-04 10:35 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-04 10:42 ` Jens Axboe
2003-06-04 10:46 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-04 10:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-04 11:57 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-04 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2003-06-04 12:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-04 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2003-06-04 20:50 ` Rob Landley
2003-06-04 12:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-04 12:35 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-06-09 21:39 ` [PATCH] io stalls (was: -rc7 Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc6) Chris Mason
2003-06-09 22:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-10 0:27 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-10 23:13 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-11 0:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 0:44 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-09 23:51 ` [PATCH] io stalls Nick Piggin
2003-06-10 0:32 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-10 0:47 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-10 1:48 ` Robert White
2003-06-10 2:13 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-10 23:04 ` Robert White
2003-06-11 0:58 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-10 3:22 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-10 21:17 ` Robert White
2003-06-11 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-11 0:33 ` [PATCH] io stalls (was: -rc7 Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc6) Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 0:48 ` [PATCH] io stalls Nick Piggin
2003-06-11 1:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 0:54 ` [PATCH] io stalls (was: -rc7 Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc6) Chris Mason
2003-06-11 1:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 1:57 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-11 2:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 12:24 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-11 17:42 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-11 18:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-11 18:27 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-11 18:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 1:04 ` [PATCH] io stalls Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 1:12 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-12 1:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 1:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 2:22 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-12 2:41 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 2:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 2:51 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 2:52 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 3:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 2:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 3:04 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 3:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 3:20 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 3:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 3:48 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 4:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-12 4:41 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-12 16:06 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-12 16:16 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-25 19:03 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-25 19:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-25 20:18 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-27 8:41 ` write-caches, I/O stalls: MUST-FIX (was: [PATCH] io stalls) Matthias Andree
2003-06-26 5:48 ` [PATCH] io stalls Nick Piggin
2003-06-26 11:48 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-26 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-26 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-26 15:55 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-27 1:21 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-27 1:39 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-27 9:45 ` Nick Piggin
2003-06-27 12:41 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-12 11:57 ` Chris Mason
2003-06-04 10:43 ` -rc7 Re: Linux 2.4.21-rc6 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-06-04 11:01 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-06-03 19:45 ` Config issue (CONFIG_X86_TSC) " Paul
2003-06-03 20:18 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-30 19:08 Daniel Goller
2003-05-30 20:52 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-05-31 7:06 ` Daniel Goller
2003-05-31 11:12 ` Michael Frank
2003-06-01 0:39 ` Daniel Goller
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