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From: Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	 "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	 android-mm <android-mm@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Unconditionally lock folios when calling rmap_walk()
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 11:59:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EESO5FnraOUV=CzcD6t_e086pC7rDZuVv4w2ng==7KacA=Pg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6b12ef9-1808-45a3-9d64-5c7fd1904b5b@lucifer.local>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 2:04 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:42:45AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I do wonder if we can identify this case and handle things differently.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps even saying 'try and get the rmap lock, but if there's "too much"
> > > > contention, grab the folio lock.
> > >
> > > Can you please elaborate what you mean? Where do you mean we can
> > > possibly do something like this?
> > >
> > > UFFD move only works on PageAnonExclusive folios. So, would it help
> > > (in terms of avoiding contention) if we were to change the condition:
> >
> > I think we shouldn't be using PAE here. Once could consider using
> > folio_maybe_mapped_shared(), and assume contention on the folio lock if it
> > is maybe mapped shared.
>
> Interesting!
>
> >
> > But the real question is with whom we would be contending for the folio
> > lock.
> >
> > Is it really other processes mapping that folio? I'm not so sure.
>
> Yeah, I might go off and do some research myself on this, actually. Nail down
> wehre this might actually happen.
>
> Generally I'm softening on this and maybe we're good with the proposed change.
>
> But still want to be super careful here... :)
>
Anxiously waiting for your assessment. Fingers crossed :)
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> >
> > David / dhildenb
> >
>
> Cheers, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-02 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 17:29 [DISCUSSION] Unconditionally lock folios when calling rmap_walk() Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-22 17:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-08-22 18:08   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-24  4:18 ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-24  5:31   ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-24  6:45     ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-25 10:52       ` Harry Yoo
2025-08-28 11:32         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-25 15:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-25 18:46   ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-28 12:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  0:23     ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-29  8:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-29  9:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02 18:59           ` Lokesh Gidra [this message]
2025-09-02 19:01             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 19:04               ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-29  9:01       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 15:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 22:23   ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-08-28 11:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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