From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
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Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
harisokn@amazon.com, cl@gentwo.org,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
zhenglifeng1@huawei.com, xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com,
joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] rqspinlock: use smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 10:43:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJf317mXSDLs=K0pzTDGqMA8vqSDoNm5=LvEst6kdAi6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLWDcJiZWD7g8-4S@arm.com>
On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:28 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 01:07:35AM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
> > index a385603436e9..ce8feadeb9a9 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
> > @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@
> > #define _ASM_RQSPINLOCK_H
> >
> > #include <asm/barrier.h>
> > +
> > +#define res_smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting() arch_timer_evtstrm_available()
>
> More on this below, I don't think we should define it.
>
> > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c b/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
> > index 5ab354d55d82..8de1395422e8 100644
> > --- a/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
> > +++ b/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
> > @@ -82,6 +82,7 @@ struct rqspinlock_timeout {
> > u64 duration;
> > u64 cur;
> > u16 spin;
> > + u8 wait;
> > };
> >
> > #define RES_TIMEOUT_VAL 2
> > @@ -241,26 +242,20 @@ static noinline int check_timeout(rqspinlock_t *lock, u32 mask,
> > }
> >
> > /*
> > - * Do not amortize with spins when res_smp_cond_load_acquire is defined,
> > - * as the macro does internal amortization for us.
> > + * Only amortize with spins when we don't have a waiting implementation.
> > */
> > -#ifndef res_smp_cond_load_acquire
> > #define RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT(ts, ret, mask) \
> > ({ \
> > - if (!(ts).spin++) \
> > + if ((ts).wait || !(ts).spin++) \
> > (ret) = check_timeout((lock), (mask), &(ts)); \
> > (ret); \
> > })
> > -#else
> > -#define RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT(ts, ret, mask) \
> > - ({ (ret) = check_timeout((lock), (mask), &(ts)); })
> > -#endif
>
> IIUC, RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT in the current res_smp_cond_load_acquire() usage
> doesn't amortise the spins, as the comment suggests, but rather the
> calls to check_timeout(). This is fine, it matches the behaviour of
> smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() you introduced in the first patch. The
> only difference is the number of spins - 200 (matching poll_idle) vs 64K
> above. Does 200 work for the above?
>
> > /*
> > * Initialize the 'spin' member.
> > * Set spin member to 0 to trigger AA/ABBA checks immediately.
> > */
> > -#define RES_INIT_TIMEOUT(ts) ({ (ts).spin = 0; })
> > +#define RES_INIT_TIMEOUT(ts) ({ (ts).spin = 0; (ts).wait = res_smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting(); })
>
> First of all, I don't really like the smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting(),
> that's an implementation detail of smp_cond_load_*_timewait() that
> shouldn't leak outside. But more importantly, RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT() is
> also used outside the smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() condition. The
> (ts).wait check only makes sense when used together with the WFE
> waiting.
+1 to the above.
Penalizing all other architectures with pointless runtime check:
> - if (!(ts).spin++) \
> + if ((ts).wait || !(ts).spin++) \
is not acceptable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 8:07 [PATCH v4 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-08-29 8:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 21:34 ` Ankur Arora
2025-08-29 8:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] arm64: " Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 22:40 ` Ankur Arora
2025-08-29 8:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-29 8:07 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-29 8:07 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] rqspinlock: use smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 17:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2025-09-02 21:30 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-02 21:31 ` Ankur Arora
2025-08-29 18:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timewait() Okanovic, Haris
2025-08-29 22:38 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 22:46 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-03 9:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-03 18:34 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-03 15:56 ` Okanovic, Haris
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