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From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:21:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABi2SkVV-V1jk+nB8_+6roG1-giM1DzhFP+V0RnT0UMF9qjuJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202507241352.22634450C9@keescook>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:15 PM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 06:38:03PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > We make a change to the logic here to correct a mistake - we must disallow
> > discard of read-only MAP_PRIVATE file-backed mappings, which previously we
> > were not.
> > The justification for this change is to account for the case where:
> >
> > 1. A MAP_PRIVATE R/W file-backed mapping is established.
> > 2. The mapping is written to, which backs it with anonymous memory.
> > 3. The mapping is mprotect()'d read-only.
> > 4. The mapping is mseal()'d.
> >
> > If we were to now allow discard of this data, it would mean mseal() would
> > not prevent the unrecoverable discarding of data and it was thus violate
> > the semantics of sealed VMAs.
>
> I want to make sure I'm understanding this right:
>
> Was the old behavior to allow discard? (If so, that seems like it wasn't
> doing what Linus asked for[1], but it's not clear to me if that was
> the behavior Chrome wanted.)
Chrome V8 JIT engine only cares about  anonymous mapping, not file backed.
I'm not sure about all of Chrome though.

> The test doesn't appear to validate which
> contents end up being visible after the discard, only whether or not
> madvise() succeeds.
>
Agree the test can be improved to validate the read-back after discard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-16 17:38 [PATCH v3 0/5] mseal cleanups, fixup MAP_PRIVATE file-backed case Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mm/mseal: always define VM_SEALED Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 18:34   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-24 18:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 18:39   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-24 18:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 22:18       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 19:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 21:53       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25  6:17         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 16:22         ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-24 21:15   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-24 21:32     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 21:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24 22:29         ` Kees Cook
2025-07-24 22:47           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25  7:41             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25  5:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 16:21     ` Jeff Xu [this message]
2025-07-24 22:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25  7:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  7:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25  8:53         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  9:46           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25 10:05             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 10:10               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-25 10:17                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mm/mseal: small cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 18:40   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-16 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mm/mseal: Simplify and rename VMA gap check Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 18:40   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25  5:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-16 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] mm/mseal: rework mseal apply logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 18:41   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-24 18:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] mseal cleanups, fixup MAP_PRIVATE file-backed case Jeff Xu
2025-07-24 19:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  6:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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