From: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] mm, swap: always lock and check the swap cache folio before use
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 14:10:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACePvbW9J5_8uLi46r+wm8cHfZPdp6oui3oP7u2hLOEgJXRrTQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7AT79NfcKtsfgOi6LQJViXOz-Xs5LOUmOiJYJS-DwQg=A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 11:18 AM Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So the missing readahead stats update behavior is the correct and
> > better behavior. I suggest you spit that out as a separate patch with
> > appropriate comments about it too. It is also easier to bisect the
> > commit if that kind of the subtle change which is considered safe
> > turns out causing a problem. Causing problem not happen very often but
> > it does happen before.
> >
>
> Hmm, after a second thought, maybe we should keep it as it is for now.
>
> I just realized moving the swap_update_readahead after folio_lock is
> more than just ensuring the folio is still valid. It will also cause
> every swapin to do a readahead update. Previously, only cache hit
> swapin will do a swap readahead update.
>
> I did some tests, and didn't see any measurable performance difference
> between putting it before / after the folio_lock. But changing it for
> no good reason seems not a good idea after all.
>
> So I think I'll keep it before the folio_lock. There is no evidence of
> which strategy is better, just keep the current behaviour.
>
> Calling swap_update_readahead even if the swap cache folio
> is already invalidated is not really harmful, the only thing it does
> that may effect the folio is the folio_test_clear_readahead call in
> it, and we have been doing for years with no problem. Calling
> swap_update_readahead for every folio might not be a good idea.
Thanks for the update. That is what I originally felt as well. It
caught me by surprise by this detour code path. I need to spend extra
time for the detour. I don't see it necessary to contribute to the
phase I goal of merging the swap table.
We can still add it later as a separate patch if we want.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-01 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-22 19:20 [PATCH 0/9] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I) Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm, swap: use unified helper for swap cache look up Kairui Song
2025-08-27 2:47 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 3:50 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 13:45 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-27 3:52 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-27 13:46 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-28 3:20 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-01 23:50 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 6:12 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 6:52 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 10:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:32 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 16:38 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 10:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 17:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 17:41 ` Nhat Pham
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm, swap: always lock and check the swap cache folio before use Kairui Song
2025-08-27 6:13 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 13:44 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:42 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 7:03 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 14:35 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-28 3:41 ` Baolin Wang
2025-08-28 18:05 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:53 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 15:15 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 17:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 18:17 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-01 21:10 ` Chris Li [this message]
2025-09-02 5:40 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 10:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:46 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:27 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm, swap: rename and move some swap cluster definition and helpers Kairui Song
2025-08-30 2:31 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 5:53 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 10:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 12:50 ` Chris Li
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm, swap: tidy up swap device and cluster info helpers Kairui Song
2025-08-27 3:47 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-27 17:44 ` Chris Li
2025-08-27 23:46 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-30 2:38 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 6:01 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 6:02 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 15:03 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm/shmem, swap: remove redundant error handling for replacing folio Kairui Song
2025-08-25 3:02 ` Baolin Wang
2025-08-25 9:45 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-30 2:41 ` Chris Li
2025-09-03 8:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm, swap: use the swap table for the swap cache and switch API Kairui Song
2025-08-30 1:54 ` Baoquan He
2025-08-30 3:40 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 3:34 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 16:52 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 1:00 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 11:51 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 9:55 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 11:58 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 23:44 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 2:12 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 2:31 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 11:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-03 12:54 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm, swap: remove contention workaround for swap cache Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:07 ` Chris Li
2025-08-30 15:24 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 15:54 ` Kairui Song
2025-08-31 20:06 ` Chris Li
2025-08-31 20:04 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 10:06 ` Barry Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm, swap: implement dynamic allocation of swap table Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 11:15 ` Barry Song
2025-09-02 13:17 ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 16:57 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-02 23:31 ` Barry Song
2025-09-03 2:13 ` Kairui Song
2025-09-03 12:35 ` Chris Li
2025-09-03 20:52 ` Barry Song
2025-08-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm, swap: use a single page for swap table when the size fits Kairui Song
2025-08-30 4:23 ` Chris Li
2025-08-26 22:00 ` [PATCH 0/9] mm, swap: introduce swap table as swap cache (phase I) Chris Li
2025-08-30 5:44 ` Chris Li
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