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From: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	"Zach O'Keefe" <zokeefe@google.com>,
	Manish Mishra <manish.mishra@nutanix.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/46] hugetlb: use struct hugetlb_pte for walk_hugetlb_range
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 11:45:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADrL8HWFfqCqbpmvv8BSpvvzJ9aEeBEN30bMLuWGancsfMXv2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8AnROAtMngKntnq@x1n>

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 10:29 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 09:06:48AM -0500, James Houghton wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:58 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 10:18:19AM +0000, James Houghton wrote:
> > > > @@ -751,9 +761,9 @@ static int smaps_hugetlb_range(pte_t *pte, unsigned long hmask,
> > > >               int mapcount = page_mapcount(page);
> > > >
> > > >               if (mapcount >= 2)
> > > > -                     mss->shared_hugetlb += huge_page_size(hstate_vma(vma));
> > > > +                     mss->shared_hugetlb += hugetlb_pte_size(hpte);
> > > >               else
> > > > -                     mss->private_hugetlb += huge_page_size(hstate_vma(vma));
> > > > +                     mss->private_hugetlb += hugetlb_pte_size(hpte);
> > > >       }
> > > >       return 0;
> > >
> > > One thing interesting I found with hgm right now is mostly everything will
> > > be counted as "shared" here, I think it's because mapcount is accounted
> > > always to the huge page even if mapped in smaller sizes, so page_mapcount()
> > > to a small page should be huge too because the head page mapcount should be
> > > huge.  I'm curious the reasons behind the mapcount decision.
> > >
> > > For example, would that risk overflow with head_compound_mapcount?  One 1G
> > > page mapping all 4K takes 0.25M counts, while the limit should be 2G for
> > > atomic_t.  Looks like it's possible.
> >
> > The original mapcount approach was "if the hstate-level PTE is
> > present, increment the compound_mapcount by 1" (basically "if any of
> > the hugepage is mapped, increment the compound_mapcount by 1"), but
> > this was painful to implement,
>
> Any more info here on why it was painful?  What is the major blocker?

The original approach was implemented in RFC v1, but the
implementation was broken: the way refcount was handled was wrong; it
was incremented once for each new page table mapping. (How?
find_lock_page(), called once per hugetlb_no_page/UFFDIO_CONTINUE
would increment refcount and we wouldn't drop it, and in
__unmap_hugepage_range(), the mmu_gather bits would decrement the
refcount once per mapping.)

At the time, I figured the complexity of handling mapcount AND
refcount correctly in the original approach would be quite complex, so
I switched to the new one.

1. In places that already change the mapcount, check that we're
installing the hstate-level PTE, not a high-granularity PTE. Adjust
mapcount AND refcount appropriately.
2. In the HGM walking bits, to the caller if we made the hstate-level
PTE present. (hugetlb_[pmd,pte]_alloc is the source of truth.) Need to
keep track of this until we figure out which page we're allocating
PTEs for, then change mapcount/refcount appropriately.
3. In unmapping bits, change mmu_gather/tlb bits to drop refcount only
once per hugepage. (This is probably the hardest of these three things
to get right.)

>
> > so I changed it to what it is now (each new PT mapping increments the
> > compound_mapcount by 1). I think you're right, there is absolutely an
> > overflow risk. :( I'm not sure what the best solution is. I could just go
> > back to the old approach.
>
> No rush on that; let's discuss it thoroughly before doing anything.  We
> have more context than when it was discussed initially in the calls, so
> maybe a good time to revisit.
>
> >
> > Regarding when things are accounted in private_hugetlb vs.
> > shared_hugetlb, HGM shouldn't change that, because it only applies to
> > shared mappings (right now anyway). It seems like "private_hugetlb"
> > can include cases where the page is shared but has only one mapping,
> > in which case HGM will change it from "private" to "shared".
>
> The two fields are not defined against VM_SHARED, it seems.  At least not
> with current code base.
>
> Let me quote the code again just to be clear:
>
>                 int mapcount = page_mapcount(page);    <------------- [1]
>
>                 if (mapcount >= 2)
>                         mss->shared_hugetlb += hugetlb_pte_size(hpte);
>                 else
>                         mss->private_hugetlb += hugetlb_pte_size(hpte);
>
>                 smaps_hugetlb_hgm_account(mss, hpte);
>
> So that information (for some reason) is only relevant to how many mapcount
> is there.  If we have one 1G page and only two 4K mapped, with the existing
> logic we should see 8K private_hugetlb while in fact I think it should be
> 8K shared_hugetlb due to page_mapcount() taking account of both 4K mappings
> (as they all goes back to the head).
>
> I have no idea whether violating that will be a problem or not, I suppose
> at least it needs justification if it will be violated, or hopefully it can
> be kept as-is.

Agreed that this is a problem. I'm not sure what should be done here.
It seems like the current upstream implementation is incorrect (surely
MAP_SHARED with only one mapping should still be shared_hugetlb not
private_hugetlb); the check should really be `if (vma->vm_flags &
VM_MAYSHARE)` instead of `mapcount >= 2`. If that change can be taken,
we don't have a problem here.

>
> >
> > >
> > > Btw, are the small page* pointers still needed in the latest HGM design?
> > > Is there code taking care of disabling of hugetlb vmemmap optimization for
> > > HGM?  Or maybe it's not needed anymore for the current design?
> >
> > The hugetlb vmemmap optimization can still be used with HGM, so there
> > is no code to disable it. We don't need small page* pointers either,
> > except for when we're dealing with mapping subpages, like in
> > hugetlb_no_page. Everything else can handle the hugetlb page as a
> > folio.
> >
> > I hope we can keep compatibility with the vmemmap optimization while
> > solving the mapcount overflow risk.
>
> Yeh that'll be perfect if it works.  But afaiu even with your current
> design (ignoring all the issues on either smaps accounting or overflow
> risks), we already referenced the small pages, aren't we?  See:
>
> static inline int page_mapcount(struct page *page)
> {
>         int mapcount = atomic_read(&page->_mapcount) + 1;  <-------- here
>
>         if (likely(!PageCompound(page)))
>                 return mapcount;
>         page = compound_head(page);
>         return head_compound_mapcount(page) + mapcount;
> }
>
> Even if we assume small page->_mapcount should always be zero in this case,
> we may need to take special care of hugetlb pages in page_mapcount() to not
> reference it at all.  Or I think it's reading random values and some days
> it can be non-zero.

IIUC, it's ok to read from all the hugetlb subpage structs, you just
can't *write* to them (except the first few). The first page of page
structs is mapped RW; all the others are mapped RO to a single
physical page.

>
> The other approach is probably using the thp approach.  After Hugh's rework
> on the thp accounting I assumed it would be even cleaner (at least no
> DoubleMap complexity anymore.. even though I can't say I fully digested the
> whole history of that).  It's all about what's the major challenges of
> using the same approach there with thp.  You may have more knowledge on
> that aspect so I'd be willing to know.

I need to take a closer look at Hugh's approach to see if we can do it
the same way. (I wonder if the 1G THP series has some ideas too.)

A really simple solution could be just to prevent userspace from doing
MADV_SPLIT (or, if we are enabling HGM due to hwpoison, ignore the
poison) if it could result in a mapcount overflow. For 1G pages,
userspace would need 8192 mappings to overflow mapcount/refcount.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-12 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-05 10:17 [PATCH 00/46] Based on latest mm-unstable (85b44c25cd1e) James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:17 ` [PATCH 01/46] hugetlb: don't set PageUptodate for UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 02/46] hugetlb: remove mk_huge_pte; it is unused James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 03/46] hugetlb: remove redundant pte_mkhuge in migration path James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 04/46] hugetlb: only adjust address ranges when VMAs want PMD sharing James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 05/46] hugetlb: add CONFIG_HUGETLB_HIGH_GRANULARITY_MAPPING James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 06/46] mm: add VM_HUGETLB_HGM VMA flag James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 07/46] hugetlb: rename __vma_shareable_flags_pmd to __vma_has_hugetlb_vma_lock James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 08/46] hugetlb: add HugeTLB HGM enablement helpers James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 09/46] mm: add MADV_SPLIT to enable HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 15:05   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 15:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-10  0:01     ` Zach O'Keefe
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 10/46] hugetlb: make huge_pte_lockptr take an explicit shift argument James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 11/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_pte to track HugeTLB page table entries James Houghton
2023-01-05 16:06   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 12/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_alloc_pmd and hugetlb_alloc_pte James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 13/46] hugetlb: add hugetlb_hgm_walk and hugetlb_walk_step James Houghton
2023-01-05 16:57   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-05 18:58   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11 21:51   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 13:38     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 14/46] hugetlb: add make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 15/46] hugetlb: make default arch_make_huge_pte understand small mappings James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 16/46] hugetlbfs: do a full walk to check if vma maps a page James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 17/46] hugetlb: make unmapping compatible with high-granularity mappings James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 18/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_change_protection James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 19/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for follow_hugetlb_page James Houghton
2023-01-05 22:26   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 18:02   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 18:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 20/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_follow_page_mask James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 21/46] hugetlb: use struct hugetlb_pte for walk_hugetlb_range James Houghton
2023-01-05 22:42   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-11 22:58   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 14:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 15:29       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 16:45         ` James Houghton [this message]
2023-01-12 16:55           ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 20:27           ` Peter Xu
2023-01-12 21:17             ` James Houghton
2023-01-12 21:33               ` Peter Xu
2023-01-16 10:17                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-17 23:11                   ` James Houghton
2023-01-18  9:43                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-18 15:35                       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-18 16:39                         ` James Houghton
2023-01-18 18:21                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-18 19:28                           ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 16:57                             ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 17:31                               ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 19:42                                 ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 20:53                                   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:45                                     ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 22:00                                   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-19 22:23                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:35                                       ` James Houghton
2023-01-19 23:07                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:26                                           ` James Houghton
2023-01-20 17:23                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:44                                           ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-23 15:19                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-23 17:49                                               ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-26 16:58                                   ` James Houghton
2023-01-26 20:30                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-01-27 21:02                                       ` James Houghton
2023-01-30 17:29                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-01-30 18:38                                           ` James Houghton
2023-01-30 21:14                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01  0:24                                               ` James Houghton
2023-02-01  1:24                                                 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01 15:45                                                   ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 15:56                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-01 17:58                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 18:01                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-01 16:22                                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-02-01 21:32                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-01 21:51                                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-02-02  0:24                                                           ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 16:30                                                             ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 22:46                                                               ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:13                                                                 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-08  0:26                                                                   ` James Houghton
2023-02-08 16:16                                                                     ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 16:43                                                                       ` James Houghton
2023-02-09 19:10                                                                         ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 19:49                                                                           ` James Houghton
2023-02-09 20:22                                                                             ` Peter Xu
2023-01-18 17:08                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 22/46] mm: rmap: provide pte_order in page_vma_mapped_walk James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 23/46] mm: rmap: make page_vma_mapped_walk callers use pte_order James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 24/46] rmap: update hugetlb lock comment for HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 25/46] hugetlb: update page_vma_mapped to do high-granularity walks James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 26/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for copy_hugetlb_page_range James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 27/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for move_hugetlb_page_tables James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 28/46] hugetlb: add HGM support for hugetlb_fault and hugetlb_no_page James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 29/46] rmap: in try_to_{migrate,unmap}_one, check head page for page flags James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 30/46] hugetlb: add high-granularity migration support James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 31/46] hugetlb: sort hstates in hugetlb_init_hstates James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 32/46] hugetlb: add for_each_hgm_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 33/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: add support for high-granularity UFFDIO_CONTINUE James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 34/46] hugetlb: userfaultfd: when using MADV_SPLIT, round addresses to PAGE_SIZE James Houghton
2023-01-06 15:13   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-10 14:50     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 35/46] hugetlb: add MADV_COLLAPSE for hugetlb James Houghton
2023-01-10 20:04   ` James Houghton
2023-01-17 21:06   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-17 21:38     ` James Houghton
2023-01-17 21:54       ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 22:37   ` Peter Xu
2023-01-19 23:06     ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 36/46] hugetlb: remove huge_pte_lock and huge_pte_lockptr James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 37/46] hugetlb: replace make_huge_pte with make_huge_pte_with_shift James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 38/46] mm: smaps: add stats for HugeTLB mapping size James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 39/46] hugetlb: x86: enable high-granularity mapping James Houghton
2023-01-12 20:07   ` James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 40/46] docs: hugetlb: update hugetlb and userfaultfd admin-guides with HGM info James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 41/46] docs: proc: include information about HugeTLB HGM James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 42/46] selftests/vm: add HugeTLB HGM to userfaultfd selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 43/46] selftests/kvm: add HugeTLB HGM to KVM demand paging selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 44/46] selftests/vm: add anon and shared hugetlb to migration test James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 45/46] selftests/vm: add hugetlb HGM test to migration selftest James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:18 ` [PATCH 46/46] selftests/vm: add HGM UFFDIO_CONTINUE and hwpoison tests James Houghton
2023-01-05 10:47 ` [PATCH 00/46] Based on latest mm-unstable (85b44c25cd1e) David Hildenbrand
2023-01-09 19:53   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-01-10 15:47     ` David Hildenbrand

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