From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753368AbcEBJA4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 May 2016 05:00:56 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:36431 "EHLO mail-io0-f172.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752805AbcEBJAs (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 May 2016 05:00:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: noloader@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1462170413-7164-4-git-send-email-tytso@mit.edu> References: <1462170413-7164-1-git-send-email-tytso@mit.edu> <1462170413-7164-4-git-send-email-tytso@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 05:00:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] random: add interrupt callback to VMBus IRQ handler From: Jeffrey Walton To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Stephan Mueller , Herbert Xu , andi@firstfloor.org, Sandy Harris , cryptography@lakedaemon.net, jsd@av8n.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Stephan Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > From: Stephan Mueller > > The Hyper-V Linux Integration Services use the VMBus implementation for > communication with the Hypervisor. VMBus registers its own interrupt > handler that completely bypasses the common Linux interrupt handling. > This implies that the interrupt entropy collector is not triggered. > ... Stephan correctly identified the problem of virtualized environments in his paper, but there does not appear to be any real defenses in place for VM rollback attacks. Perhpas the following will make interesting reading: * When Virtual is Harder than Real: Security Challenges in Virtual Machine Based Computing Environments, https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/hotos05/final_papers/full_papers/garfinkel/garfinkel.pdf * When Good Randomness Goes Bad: Virtual Machine Reset Vulnerabilities and Hedging Deployed Cryptography, http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~rist/papers/sslhedge.pdf Jeff