From: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: "Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"Olivier Masse" <olivier.masse@nxp.com>,
"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
"Yong Wu" <yong.wu@mediatek.com>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
"Brian Starkey" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
"T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
azarrabi@qti.qualcomm.com,
"Florent Tomasin" <florent.tomasin@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:19:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHUa44FtXA8bOS1-BAGSrCFLxu_FRd2TaEtxGNdkzKua_-wNUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFA6WYOaGEPj0xNEDBCoEmjJreEHChjQ2hyXRJ_CYoGhiBonfw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 7:42 AM Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Boris,
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 01:26, Boris Brezillon
> <boris.brezillon@collabora.com> wrote:
> >
> > +Florent, who's working on protected-mode support in Panthor.
> >
> > Hi Jens,
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:07:36 +0100
> > Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This patch set allocates the restricted DMA-bufs via the TEE subsystem.
> >
> > We're currently working on protected-mode support for Panthor [1] and it
> > looks like your series (and the OP-TEE implementation that goes with
> > it) would allow us to have a fully upstream/open solution for the
> > protected content use case we're trying to support. I need a bit more
> > time to play with the implementation but this looks very promising
> > (especially the lend rstmem feature, which might help us allocate our
> > FW sections that are supposed to execute code accessing protected
> > content).
>
> Glad to hear that, if you can demonstrate an open source use case
> based on this series then it will help to land it. We really would
> love to see support for restricted DMA-buf consumers be it GPU, crypto
> accelerator, media pipeline etc.
I'm preparing a demo based on GStreamer to share. It helps with more
real-world examples to see that APIs etc work.
>
> >
> > >
> > > The TEE subsystem handles the DMA-buf allocations since it is the TEE
> > > (OP-TEE, AMD-TEE, TS-TEE, or perhaps a future QCOMTEE) which sets up the
> > > restrictions for the memory used for the DMA-bufs.
> > >
> > > I've added a new IOCTL, TEE_IOC_RSTMEM_ALLOC, to allocate the restricted
> > > DMA-bufs. This IOCTL reaches the backend TEE driver, allowing it to choose
> > > how to allocate the restricted physical memory.
> >
> > I'll probably have more questions soon, but here's one to start: any
> > particular reason you didn't go for a dma-heap to expose restricted
> > buffer allocation to userspace? I see you already have a cdev you can
> > take ioctl()s from, but my understanding was that dma-heap was the
> > standard solution for these device-agnostic/central allocators.
>
> This series started with the DMA heap approach only here [1] but later
> discussions [2] lead us here. To point out specifically:
>
> - DMA heaps require reliance on DT to discover static restricted
> regions carve-outs whereas via the TEE implementation driver (eg.
> OP-TEE) those can be discovered dynamically.
> - Dynamic allocation of buffers and making them restricted requires
> vendor specific driver hooks with DMA heaps whereas the TEE subsystem
> abstracts that out with underlying TEE implementation (eg. OP-TEE)
> managing the dynamic buffer restriction.
> - TEE subsystem already has a well defined user-space interface for
> managing shared memory buffers with TEE and restricted DMA buffers
> will be yet another interface managed along similar lines.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/mzur3odofwwrdqnystozjgf3qtvb73wqjm6g2vf5dfsqiehaxk@u67fcarhm6ge/T/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFA6WYPtp3H5JhxzgH9=z2EvNL7Kdku3EmG1aDkTS-gjFtNZZA@mail.gmail.com/
Thanks for the good summary. :-)
Cheers,
Jens
>
> -Sumit
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > [1]https://lwn.net/ml/all/cover.1738228114.git.florent.tomasin@arm.com/#t
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-13 8:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-17 10:07 [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] tee: add restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2025-01-08 16:54 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09 7:17 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13 8:44 ` Boris Brezillon
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] optee: account for direction while converting parameters Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] optee: sync secure world ABI headers Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] optee: support restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] optee: FF-A: dynamic " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-20 14:38 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21 9:40 ` kernel test robot
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] optee: smc abi: " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-18 11:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Simona Vetter
2024-12-24 6:35 ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-24 9:28 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24 9:32 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24 10:00 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-26 5:59 ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-26 11:26 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-08 17:00 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 16:57 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09 6:08 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-12 19:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 6:41 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13 8:19 ` Jens Wiklander [this message]
2025-02-13 8:35 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 9:16 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13 12:40 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 14:05 ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-13 15:57 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13 17:39 ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-14 10:07 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-14 13:07 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-14 15:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-17 6:12 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-18 16:22 ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-19 13:22 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-21 11:24 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-21 14:12 ` Daniel Stone
2025-03-04 7:17 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-03-04 7:45 ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-18 18:38 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-03-19 7:37 ` Jens Wiklander
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