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From: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
Cc: "Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Olivier Masse" <olivier.masse@nxp.com>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Yong Wu" <yong.wu@mediatek.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	"Brian Starkey" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	azarrabi@qti.qualcomm.com,
	"Florent Tomasin" <florent.tomasin@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 09:19:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHUa44FtXA8bOS1-BAGSrCFLxu_FRd2TaEtxGNdkzKua_-wNUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFA6WYOaGEPj0xNEDBCoEmjJreEHChjQ2hyXRJ_CYoGhiBonfw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 7:42 AM Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Boris,
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 01:26, Boris Brezillon
> <boris.brezillon@collabora.com> wrote:
> >
> > +Florent, who's working on protected-mode support in Panthor.
> >
> > Hi Jens,
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:07:36 +0100
> > Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This patch set allocates the restricted DMA-bufs via the TEE subsystem.
> >
> > We're currently working on protected-mode support for Panthor [1] and it
> > looks like your series (and the OP-TEE implementation that goes with
> > it) would allow us to have a fully upstream/open solution for the
> > protected content use case we're trying to support. I need a bit more
> > time to play with the implementation but this looks very promising
> > (especially the lend rstmem feature, which might help us allocate our
> > FW sections that are supposed to execute code accessing protected
> > content).
>
> Glad to hear that, if you can demonstrate an open source use case
> based on this series then it will help to land it. We really would
> love to see support for restricted DMA-buf consumers be it GPU, crypto
> accelerator, media pipeline etc.

I'm preparing a demo based on GStreamer to share. It helps with more
real-world examples to see that APIs etc work.

>
> >
> > >
> > > The TEE subsystem handles the DMA-buf allocations since it is the TEE
> > > (OP-TEE, AMD-TEE, TS-TEE, or perhaps a future QCOMTEE) which sets up the
> > > restrictions for the memory used for the DMA-bufs.
> > >
> > > I've added a new IOCTL, TEE_IOC_RSTMEM_ALLOC, to allocate the restricted
> > > DMA-bufs. This IOCTL reaches the backend TEE driver, allowing it to choose
> > > how to allocate the restricted physical memory.
> >
> > I'll probably have more questions soon, but here's one to start: any
> > particular reason you didn't go for a dma-heap to expose restricted
> > buffer allocation to userspace? I see you already have a cdev you can
> > take ioctl()s from, but my understanding was that dma-heap was the
> > standard solution for these device-agnostic/central allocators.
>
> This series started with the DMA heap approach only here [1] but later
> discussions [2] lead us here. To point out specifically:
>
> - DMA heaps require reliance on DT to discover static restricted
> regions carve-outs whereas via the TEE implementation driver (eg.
> OP-TEE) those can be discovered dynamically.
> - Dynamic allocation of buffers and making them restricted requires
> vendor specific driver hooks with DMA heaps whereas the TEE subsystem
> abstracts that out with underlying TEE implementation (eg. OP-TEE)
> managing the dynamic buffer restriction.
> - TEE subsystem already has a well defined user-space interface for
> managing shared memory buffers with TEE and restricted DMA buffers
> will be yet another interface managed along similar lines.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/mzur3odofwwrdqnystozjgf3qtvb73wqjm6g2vf5dfsqiehaxk@u67fcarhm6ge/T/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFA6WYPtp3H5JhxzgH9=z2EvNL7Kdku3EmG1aDkTS-gjFtNZZA@mail.gmail.com/

Thanks for the good summary. :-)

Cheers,
Jens

>
> -Sumit
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > [1]https://lwn.net/ml/all/cover.1738228114.git.florent.tomasin@arm.com/#t

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-13  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:07 [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] tee: add restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2025-01-08 16:54   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09  7:17     ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13  8:44   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] optee: account for direction while converting parameters Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] optee: sync secure world ABI headers Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] optee: support restricted memory allocation Jens Wiklander
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] optee: FF-A: dynamic " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-20 14:38   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-21  9:40   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] optee: smc abi: " Jens Wiklander
2024-12-18 11:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] TEE subsystem for restricted dma-buf allocations Simona Vetter
2024-12-24  6:35   ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-24  9:28     ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24  9:32       ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-24 10:00         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-12-26  5:59       ` Sumit Garg
2024-12-26 11:26         ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-08 17:00           ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 16:57     ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-09  6:08       ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-12 19:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  6:41   ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13  8:19     ` Jens Wiklander [this message]
2025-02-13  8:35     ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13  9:16       ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13 12:40         ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-13 14:05           ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-13 15:57             ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-13 17:39               ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-14 10:07                 ` Jens Wiklander
2025-02-14 13:07                   ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-14 15:48                     ` Boris Brezillon
2025-02-17  6:12                       ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-18 16:22                         ` Daniel Stone
2025-02-19 13:22                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-21 11:24                           ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-21 14:12                             ` Daniel Stone
2025-03-04  7:17                               ` Jens Wiklander
2025-03-04  7:45                                 ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-18 18:38                                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-03-19  7:37                                     ` Jens Wiklander

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