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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] ntp: Use printk_deferred in leapsecond path
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:14:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALAqxLWreyGU7n_y--xL0x=ZE6FfBWEZc6p-9tqeX_EGsitShA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1506021241420.4852@twin.jikos.cz>

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2015, Jiri Bohac wrote:
>
>> > Looking over the leapsecond code, I noticed the printk messages
>> > reporting the leapsecond insertion in the second_overflow path
>> > were not using the printk_deferred method. This was surprising
>> > since the printk_deferred method was added in part to avoid
>> > printk-ing while holding the timekeeping locks.
>> >
>> > See 6d9bcb621b0b (timekeeping: use printk_deferred when holding
>> > timekeeping seqlock) for further rational.
>> >
>> > I can only guess that this omission was a git add -p oversight.
>>
>> second_overflow() is called from accumulate_nsecs_to_secs().
>>
>> accumulate_nsecs_to_secs() is called from update_wall_time()
>> - once directly
>> - once via logarithmic_accumulation()
>> Both calls are before write_seqcount_begin(&tk_core.seq).
>>
>> So it looks safe to use printk there.
>
> Couldn't we stuff a couple of
>
>         !lockdep_is_held()
>
> assertions into printk() so that we don't have to keep rediscovering this
> sort of problems over and over again?

Yea.  I was thinking if we could add something very early in printk
before we disable lockdep where we lockdep_aquire/release a few of the
locks we know printk might take, it would help close the gap on these
sorts of call paths that surprise us.

Lockdep is *such* a great tool, because it provides some confidence
that changes don't cause locking regressions, so to have printk poke a
hole in that confidence is frustrating.

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-02 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29 20:24 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Fixes for leapsecond expiring early ABS_TIME CLOCK_REALTIME timers John Stultz
2015-05-29 20:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] selftests: timers: Add leap-second timer edge testing to leap-a-day.c John Stultz
2015-05-29 20:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] timer_list: Add the base offset so remaining nsecs are accurate for non monotonic timers John Stultz
2015-05-29 20:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] ntp: Use printk_deferred in leapsecond path John Stultz
2015-06-02 10:31   ` Jiri Bohac
2015-06-02 10:43     ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-02 16:14       ` John Stultz [this message]
2015-06-02 16:04     ` John Stultz
2015-05-29 20:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] time: Do leapsecond adjustment in gettime fastpaths John Stultz
2015-05-31 16:05   ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-02  9:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-02  9:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-02 14:09       ` John Stultz
2015-06-02 15:52     ` John Stultz
2015-06-03  9:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-03 17:44         ` John Stultz
2015-06-04  6:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-05  0:08             ` John Stultz
2015-06-05  7:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  9:04                 ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-05  9:10                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05 14:12                     ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-05 17:28                       ` John Stultz
2015-06-06  9:44                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-08 17:55                       ` John Stultz
2015-06-08 19:05                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-08 20:02                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-05 11:37                   ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-05 12:07                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-05 14:22                 ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-05 17:24                 ` John Stultz
2015-05-31 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Fixes for leapsecond expiring early ABS_TIME CLOCK_REALTIME timers Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-01 11:57 ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-01 17:02   ` John Stultz
2015-06-01 17:43     ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-01 20:18 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2015-06-01 20:32   ` John Stultz
2015-06-01 21:42   ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-01 22:29     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2015-06-02  6:19       ` John Stultz

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