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From: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenz@amazon.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<pbonzini@redhat.com>, <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
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	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<amoorthy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Introducing Core Building Blocks for Hyper-V VSM Emulation
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:32:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D47UPV0JIIMY.35CRZ8ZNZCGA1@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZuSQNZYWfeHTpAKN@google.com>

On Fri Sep 13, 2024 at 7:19 PM UTC, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2024, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote:
> > This series introduces core KVM functionality necessary to emulate Hyper-V's
> > Virtual Secure Mode in a Virtual Machine Monitor (VMM).
>
> ...
>
> > As discussed at LPC2023 and in our previous RFC [2], we decided to model each
> > VTL as a distinct KVM VM. With this approach, and the RWX memory attributes
> > introduced in this series, we have been able to implement VTL memory
> > protections in a non-intrusive way, using generic KVM APIs. Additionally, each
> > CPU's VTL is modeled as a distinct KVM vCPU, owned by the KVM VM tracking that
> > VTL's state. VTL awareness is fully removed from KVM, and the responsibility
> > for VTL-aware hypercalls, VTL scheduling, and state transfer is delegated to
> > userspace.
> >
> > Series overview:
> > - 1-8: Introduce a number of Hyper-V hyper-calls, all of which are VTL-aware and
> >        expected to be handled in userspace. Additionally an new VTL-specifc MP
> >        state is introduced.
> > - 9-10: Pass the instruction length as part of the userspace fault exit data
> >         in order to simplify VSM's secure intercept generation.
> > - 11-17: Introduce RWX memory attributes as well as extend userspace faults.
> > - 18: Introduces the main VSM CPUID bit which gates all VTL configuration and
> >       runtime hypercalls.
>
> Aside from the RWX attributes, which to no one's surprise will need a lot of work
> to get them performant and functional, are there any "big" TODO items that you see
> in KVM?

Aside from VTLs and VTL switching, there is bunch of KVM features we
still need to be fully compliant with the VSM spec:
- KVM_TRANSLATE2, which Nikolas Wipper posted a week ago [1].
  Technically we can do this in user-space, but it's way simpler to
  re-use KVM's page-walker.

- Hv's TlbFlushInhibit, it allows VTL1 to block VTL0 vCPUs from issuing
  TLB Flushes, and blocks them until uninhibited. Note this only applies
  to para-virtualized TLB flushes:
  HvFlushVirtualAddress{Space,SpaceEx,List,ListEx}, so it's 100% Hyper-V
  specific.

- CPU register pinning/intecepting, we plan on reusing what HEKI
  proposed some time ago, and expose it through an IOCTL using ONE_REG
  to represent registers.

- MBEC aware memory attributes, we don't plan on enabling support for
  these with the first RWX memattrs submission. We'll do it as a follow
  up, especially as not every Windows VBS feature requires it
  (Credential Guard doesn't need it, HVCI does).

> If this series is more or less code complete, IMO modeling VTLs as distinct VM
> structures is a clear win.

I agree.

> Except for the "idle VTL" stuff, which I think we can simplify, this
> series is quite boring, and I mean that in the best possible way :-)

:)

Thanks,
Nicolas

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20240910152207.38974-1-nikwip@amazon.de

      reply	other threads:[~2024-09-16 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-09 15:49 [PATCH 00/18] Introducing Core Building Blocks for Hyper-V VSM Emulation Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 01/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Introduce XMM output support Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-07-08 14:59   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2024-07-17 14:12     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-07-29 13:53       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2024-08-05 14:08         ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 02/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Introduce helpers to check if VSM is exposed to guest Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 03/18] hyperv-tlfs: Update struct hv_send_ipi{_ex}'s declarations Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 04/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Introduce VTL awareness to Hyper-V's PV-IPIs Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 18:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-16 14:52     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 05/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Introduce MP_STATE_HV_INACTIVE_VTL Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 19:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-16 15:33     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-18  7:56       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 06/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Exit on Get/SetVpRegisters hcall Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 07/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Exit on TranslateVirtualAddress hcall Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 08/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Exit on StartVirtualProcessor and GetVpIndexFromApicId hcalls Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 09/18] KVM: Define and communicate KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT RWX flags to userspace Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 10/18] KVM: x86: Keep track of instruction length during faults Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 19:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 11/18] KVM: x86: Pass the instruction length on memory fault user-space exits Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 19:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-16 15:53     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 12/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce infrastructure to handle non-executable mappings Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 13/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Avoid warning when installing non-private memory attributes Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 19:13   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 14/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Init memslot if memory attributes available Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 15/18] KVM: Introduce RWX memory attributes Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 16/18] KVM: x86: Take mem attributes into account when faulting memory Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-08-22 15:21   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-08-22 16:58     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-13 18:26       ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 17/18] KVM: Introduce traces to track memory attributes modification Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-06-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 18/18] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Handle VSM hcalls in user-space Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-07-03  9:55 ` [PATCH 00/18] Introducing Core Building Blocks for Hyper-V VSM Emulation Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-07-03 12:48   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2024-07-03 13:18     ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-09-13 19:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-16 16:32   ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne [this message]

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