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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
Cc: <x86@kernel.org>, "Ross Philipson" <ross.philipson@oracle.com>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"open list:TPM DEVICE DRIVER" <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Alternative TPM patches for Trenchboot
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:19:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D5DCR279TZY5.1C7KRTFPGD3WU@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D5DCPWBQ2M7H.GAUEVUKGC3G0@kernel.org>

On Mon Nov 4, 2024 at 1:18 PM EET, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Mon Nov 4, 2024 at 12:57 PM EET, Daniel P. Smith wrote:
> > On 11/2/24 14:00, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Sat Nov 2, 2024 at 5:22 PM EET, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > >> It is not really my problem but I'm also wondering how the
> > >> initialization order is managed. What if e.g. IMA happens to
> > >> initialize before slmodule?
> > > 
> > > The first obvious observation from Trenchboot implementation is that it
> > > is 9/10 times worst idea ever to have splitted root of trust. Here it
> > > is realized by an LKM for slmodule.
> >
> > First, there is no conflict between IMA and slmodule. With your change 
> > to make locality switching a one shot, the only issue would be if IMA 
> > were to run first and issue a locality switch to Locality 0, thus 
> > blocking slmodule from switching to Locality 2. As for PCR usage, IMA 
> > uses the SRTM PCRs, which are completely accessible under Locality 2.
>
> Just pointing out a possible problem (e.g. with  TPM2_PolicyLocality).
>
> > Honestly, a better path forward would be to revisit the issue that is
> > driving most of that logic existing, which is the lack of a TPM
> > interface code in the setup kernel. As a reminder, this issue is due to
> > the TPM maintainers position that the only TPM code in the kernel can be
> > the mainline driver. Which, unless something has changed, is impossible
> > to compile into the setup kernel due to its use of mainline kernel
> > constructs not present in the setup kernel.
>
> I don't categorically reject adding some code to early setup. We have
> some shared code EFI stub but you have to explain your changes
> proeprly. Getting rejection in some early version to some approach,
> and being still pissed about that years forward is not really way
> to go IMHO.

... and ignoring fixes that took me almost one day to fully get together
is neither.

These address the awful commit messages, tpm_tis-only filtering and not
allowing repetition in the calls.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-02 15:22 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Alternative TPM patches for Trenchboot Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-02 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] tpm, tpm_tis: Close all localities Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-02 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm, tpm_tis: Address positive localities in tpm_tis_request_locality() Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-02 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] tpm, tpm_tis: allow to set locality to a different value Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-02 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] tpm: sysfs: Show locality used by kernel Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-02 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Alternative TPM patches for Trenchboot Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 10:57   ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 11:18     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 11:19       ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-11-04 11:29         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 11:27       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-11-04 11:47         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 11:52         ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 11:55           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-11-04 12:06             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 12:19             ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 13:21               ` James Bottomley
2024-11-04 16:34                 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 20:36                   ` James Bottomley
2024-11-05  0:13                     ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-11-04 15:03       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-04 20:40 ` ross.philipson
2024-11-05  0:51 ` ross.philipson
2024-11-05 16:24   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-11-05 18:21     ` ross.philipson

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