From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Stefan Berger" <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christian Heusel" <christian@heusel.eu>
Cc: "Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<regressions@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION][BISECTED] tpm: Popping noise in USB headphones since 1b6d7f9eb150
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 07:38:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D61UX1CMHLZ5.27V9844S1S1D0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce7fa562-7cb7-4adc-934a-560b94ce44f0@linux.ibm.com>
On Mon Dec 2, 2024 at 11:15 PM CET, Stefan Berger wrote:
>
>
> On 11/29/24 9:44 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 1:42 PM EET, Christian Heusel wrote:
> >> On 24/10/25 05:47PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >>> Yeah, this is on the list.
> >>>
> >>> See: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219383#c5
> >>>
> >>> I had a fix for the AMD boot-time issue already over a month ago
> >>> but unfortunately took time to get enough feedback.
> >>>
> >>> BR, Jarkko
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this is supposed to be fixed, but AFAIK we hoped that
> >> the patchset that was mentioned in bugzilla also helped this issue.
> >>
> >> The reporter said that the bug is still present in 6.12.1, so this might
> >> need further poking 🤔
> >
> > I'd suggest a workaround for the time being.
> >
> > In 6.12 we added this for (heavy) IMA use:
> >
> > tpm.disable_pcr_integrity= [HW,TPM]
> > Do not protect PCR registers from unintended physical
> > access, or interposers in the bus by the means of
> > having an integrity protected session wrapped around
> > TPM2_PCR_Extend command. Consider this in a situation
> > where TPM is heavily utilized by IMA, thus protection
> > causing a major performance hit, and the space where
> > machines are deployed is by other means guarded.
> >
> > Similarly it might make sense to have "tpm.disable_random_integrity"
> > that disables the feature introduced by the failing commit.
> >
>
> I am wondering what could be the not-so-obvious root cause for this?
> Could it be due to a (TPM or RNG-related) lock? I guess the audio
> popping could occur if an application cannot meet timing requirements
> when it runs into some sort of blocking lock...
I'm travelling this week. I'll take a look in detail next weke. Obvious
thing is that latency has rised on getting the result for TPM2_GetRandom
but it should sleep while waiting. I.e. not sure what causes "busyness".
I think in general having disable_* for trusted keys, random and PCR
extension i.e. features that bus integrity protection touches would
be great for debugging these issues in all cases.
BR, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-03 6:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-25 0:11 [REGRESSION][BISECTED] tpm: Popping noise in USB headphones since 1b6d7f9eb150 Christian Heusel
2024-10-25 14:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-26 11:42 ` Christian Heusel
2024-11-30 2:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-12-02 22:15 ` Stefan Berger
2024-12-03 6:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-12-09 12:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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