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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Stefan Berger" <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Heusel" <christian@heusel.eu>
Cc: "Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<regressions@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION][BISECTED] tpm: Popping noise in USB headphones since 1b6d7f9eb150
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 07:38:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D61UX1CMHLZ5.27V9844S1S1D0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce7fa562-7cb7-4adc-934a-560b94ce44f0@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon Dec 2, 2024 at 11:15 PM CET, Stefan Berger wrote:
>
>
> On 11/29/24 9:44 PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Tue Nov 26, 2024 at 1:42 PM EET, Christian Heusel wrote:
> >> On 24/10/25 05:47PM, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >>> Yeah, this is on the list.
> >>>
> >>> See: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219383#c5
> >>>
> >>> I had a fix for the AMD boot-time issue already over a month ago
> >>> but unfortunately took time to get enough feedback.
> >>>
> >>> BR, Jarkko
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this is supposed to be fixed, but AFAIK we hoped that
> >> the patchset that was mentioned in bugzilla also helped this issue.
> >>
> >> The reporter said that the bug is still present in 6.12.1, so this might
> >> need further poking 🤔
> > 
> > I'd suggest a workaround for the time being.
> > 
> > In 6.12 we added this for (heavy) IMA use:
> > 
> > tpm.disable_pcr_integrity= [HW,TPM]
> >                          Do not protect PCR registers from unintended physical
> >                          access, or interposers in the bus by the means of
> >                          having an integrity protected session wrapped around
> >                          TPM2_PCR_Extend command. Consider this in a situation
> >                          where TPM is heavily utilized by IMA, thus protection
> >                          causing a major performance hit, and the space where
> >                          machines are deployed is by other means guarded.
> > 
> > Similarly it might make sense to have "tpm.disable_random_integrity"
> > that disables the feature introduced by the failing commit.
> > 
>
> I am wondering what could be the not-so-obvious root cause for this? 
> Could it be due to a (TPM or RNG-related) lock? I guess the audio 
> popping could occur if an application cannot meet timing requirements 
> when it runs into some sort of blocking lock...

I'm travelling this week. I'll take a look in detail next weke. Obvious
thing is that latency has rised on getting the result for TPM2_GetRandom
but it should sleep while waiting. I.e. not sure what causes "busyness".

I think in general having disable_* for trusted keys, random and PCR
extension i.e. features that bus integrity protection touches would
be great for debugging these issues in all cases.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-03  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-25  0:11 [REGRESSION][BISECTED] tpm: Popping noise in USB headphones since 1b6d7f9eb150 Christian Heusel
2024-10-25 14:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-26 11:42   ` Christian Heusel
2024-11-30  2:44     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-12-02 22:15       ` Stefan Berger
2024-12-03  6:38         ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-12-09 12:58         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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