From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, rafael@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org,
alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, a.hindborg@kernel.org,
aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] rust: pci: impl TryFrom<&Device> for &pci::Device
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:39:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8ON7WC8WMFG.2S2JRK6G9TOSL@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-CG01QzSJjp46ad@pollux>
On Sun Mar 23, 2025 at 11:10 PM CET, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 11:10:57AM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 08:25:07PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>> > Along these lines, if you can convince me that this is something that we
>> > really should be doing, in that we should always be checking every time
>> > someone would want to call to_pci_dev(), that the return value is
>> > checked, then why don't we also do this in C if it's going to be
>> > something to assure people it is going to be correct? I don't want to
>> > see the rust and C sides get "out of sync" here for things that can be
>> > kept in sync, as that reduces the mental load of all of us as we travers
>> > across the boundry for the next 20+ years.
>>
>> I think in this case it is good when the C and Rust side get a bit
>> "out of sync":
>
> A bit more clarification on this:
>
> What I want to say with this is, since we can cover a lot of the common cases
> through abstractions and the type system, we're left with the not so common
> ones, where the "upcasts" are not made in the context of common and well
> established patterns, but, for instance, depend on the semantics of the driver;
> those should not be unsafe IMHO.
I don't think that we should use `TryFrom` for stuff that should only be
used seldomly. A function that we can document properly is a much better
fit, since we can point users to the "correct" API.
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-24 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-21 21:47 [PATCH v4 0/3] Implement TryFrom<&Device> for bus specific devices Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-21 21:47 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] rust: device: implement bus_type_raw() Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-22 3:10 ` Greg KH
2025-03-21 21:47 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] rust: pci: impl TryFrom<&Device> for &pci::Device Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-22 3:25 ` Greg KH
2025-03-22 10:10 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-23 22:10 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-24 13:54 ` Greg KH
2025-03-24 17:05 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-24 16:39 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-03-24 16:49 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-24 17:36 ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-24 18:13 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-24 18:32 ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-01 13:51 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-04-02 0:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-02 9:06 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-21 21:47 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] rust: platform: impl TryFrom<&Device> for &platform::Device Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-22 3:25 ` Greg KH
2025-04-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Implement TryFrom<&Device> for bus specific devices Danilo Krummrich
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2025-04-07 15:52 [PATCH v4 2/3] rust: pci: impl TryFrom<&Device> for &pci::Device Benno Lossin
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