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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: add support for common firmware header
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 17:47:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCD2VJ1WJW2O.VM7E4PD3DFYO@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9adb92d4-6063-4032-bf76-f98dcfe2c824@nvidia.com>

On Wed Aug 27, 2025 at 10:34 AM JST, John Hubbard wrote:
<snip>
>> +    /// Returns the data payload of the firmware, or `None` if the data range is out of bounds of
>> +    /// the firmware image.
>> +    fn data(&self) -> Option<&[u8]> {
>> +        let fw_start = self.hdr.data_offset as usize;
>> +        let fw_size = self.hdr.data_size as usize;
>> +
>> +        self.fw.get(fw_start..fw_start + fw_size)
>
> This worries me a bit, because we never checked that these bounds
> are reasonable: within the range of the firmware, and not overflowing
> (.checked_add() for example), that sort of thing.
>
> Thoughts?

`get` returns `None` if the requested slice is out of bounds, so there
should be no risk of panicking here.

However, `fw_start + fw_size` can panic in debug configuration if it
overflows. In a release build I believe it will just happily wrap, and
`get` should consequently return `None` at the invalid range... Although
we can also get unlucky and produce a valid, yet incorrect, one.

This is actually something I've been thinking about while writing this
series and could not really decide upon: how to deal with operands and
functions in Rust that can potentially panic. Using `checked` operands
everywhere is a bit tedious, and even with great care there is no way to
guarantee that no panic occurs in a given function.

Panics are a big no-no in the kernel, yet I don't feel like we have the
proper tools to ensure they do not happen.

User-space has some crates like `no_panic`, but even these feel more
like hacks than anything else. Something at the compiler level would be
nice.

Maybe that would be a good discussion topic for the Plumber
Microconference?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26  4:07 [PATCH v2 0/8] gpu: nova-core: process and prepare more firmwares to boot GSP Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] rust: transmute: add `from_bytes_copy` method to `FromBytes` trait Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26  6:50   ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-27  0:51   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28  7:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28 11:26   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28 11:45     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-29  1:51       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: add support for common firmware header Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-27  1:34   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-27  8:47     ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-08-27 21:50       ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28  7:08         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-29  0:21           ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28 11:26       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process Booter and patch its signature Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-27  2:29   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28  7:19     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-29  0:26       ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28 20:58   ` Timur Tabi
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process the GSP bootloader Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28  3:09   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process and prepare the GSP firmware Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28  4:01   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28 11:13     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-29  0:27       ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28 11:27   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-29 11:16     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-30 12:56       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-01  7:11         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] gpu: nova-core: firmware: use 570.144 firmware Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28  4:07   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] gpu: nova-core: Add base files for r570.144 firmware bindings Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-28  4:08   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-26  4:07 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] gpu: nova-core: compute layout of more framebuffer regions required for GSP Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-29 23:30   ` John Hubbard
2025-08-30  0:59     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-30  5:46       ` John Hubbard
2025-08-27  0:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] gpu: nova-core: process and prepare more firmwares to boot GSP John Hubbard
2025-08-27  8:39   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-27 21:56     ` John Hubbard
2025-08-28 20:44       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-08-29  0:33         ` John Hubbard

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