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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	 "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	 Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 12:28:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDVNNDVOE49L.1F77ZUNBVTR1I@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251029-verw-vm-v1-1-babf9b961519@linux.intel.com>

On Wed Oct 29, 2025 at 9:26 PM UTC, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> TSA mitigation:
>
>   d8010d4ba43e ("x86/bugs: Add a Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigation")
>
> introduced VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS for guests on AMD CPUs. Currently on Intel
> CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS is being used for guests which has a much broader scope
> (kernel->user also).
>
> Make mitigations on Intel consistent with TSA. This would help handling the
> guest-only mitigations better in future.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c | 9 +++++++--
>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S | 3 ++-
>  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> index d7fa03bf51b4517c12cc68e7c441f7589a4983d1..6d00a9ea7b4f28da291114a7a096b26cc129b57e 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> @@ -194,7 +194,7 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(switch_mm_cond_l1d_flush);
>  
>  /*
>   * Controls CPU Fill buffer clear before VMenter. This is a subset of
> - * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
> + * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
>   * mitigation is required.
>   */

So if I understand correctly with this patch the aim is:

X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF means verw before exit to usermode

X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM means unconditional verw before VM Enter

cpu_buf_vm_clear[_mmio_only] means verw before VM Enter for
MMIO-capable guests.

Since this is being cleaned up can we also:

- Update the definition of X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF in cpufeatures.h to
  say what context it applies to (now it's specifically exit to user)

- Clear up how verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected relates to these
  two flags. Thinking aloud here... it looks like this is set:

  - If MDS mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set

  - If TAA mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set

  - If MMIO mitigations are on, and the CPU has MDS or TAA. In this case
    both flags are set, but this causality is messier.

  - If RFDS mitigations are on and supported, meaning both flags are set

  So if I'm reading this correctly whenever
  verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected we should expect both flags
  enabled. So I think all that's needed is to add a reference to
  X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM to the comment?

I think we also need to update the assertion of vmx->disable_fb_clear?

Anyway thanks this seems like a very clear improvement to me.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29 21:26 [PATCH 0/3] Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 22:13   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:28   ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-10-30 18:43     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31 11:25       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/mmio: Rename cpu_buf_vm_clear to cpu_buf_vm_clear_mmio_only Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30  5:40     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:29   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:56     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/mmio: Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30  6:11     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:33   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  5:52     ` Yao Yuan
2025-10-30  6:17       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:52   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 16:26       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 18:06         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:54       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:28     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 18:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:11         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 10:28   ` Borislav Petkov

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