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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	 Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	 "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 11:25:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDWGY8JOYRIO.2XYJMYGEEVLIX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251030184354.qwulxmbxkt6thu6b@desk>

On Thu Oct 30, 2025 at 6:43 PM UTC, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 12:28:06PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> On Wed Oct 29, 2025 at 9:26 PM UTC, Pawan Gupta wrote:
>> > TSA mitigation:
>> >
>> >   d8010d4ba43e ("x86/bugs: Add a Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigation")
>> >
>> > introduced VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS for guests on AMD CPUs. Currently on Intel
>> > CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS is being used for guests which has a much broader scope
>> > (kernel->user also).
>> >
>> > Make mitigations on Intel consistent with TSA. This would help handling the
>> > guest-only mitigations better in future.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
>> > ---
>> >  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c | 9 +++++++--
>> >  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S | 3 ++-
>> >  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > index d7fa03bf51b4517c12cc68e7c441f7589a4983d1..6d00a9ea7b4f28da291114a7a096b26cc129b57e 100644
>> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > @@ -194,7 +194,7 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(switch_mm_cond_l1d_flush);
>> >  
>> >  /*
>> >   * Controls CPU Fill buffer clear before VMenter. This is a subset of
>> > - * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
>> > + * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
>> >   * mitigation is required.
>> >   */
>> 
>> So if I understand correctly with this patch the aim is:
>> 
>> X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF means verw before exit to usermode
>> 
>> X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM means unconditional verw before VM Enter
>> 
>> cpu_buf_vm_clear[_mmio_only] means verw before VM Enter for
>> MMIO-capable guests.
>
> Yup, thats the goal.
>
>> Since this is being cleaned up can we also:
>> 
>> - Update the definition of X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF in cpufeatures.h to
>>   say what context it applies to (now it's specifically exit to user)
>> 
>> - Clear up how verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected relates to these
>>   two flags. Thinking aloud here... it looks like this is set:
>> 
>>   - If MDS mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set
>> 
>>   - If TAA mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set
>> 
>>   - If MMIO mitigations are on, and the CPU has MDS or TAA. In this case
>>     both flags are set, but this causality is messier.
>> 
>>   - If RFDS mitigations are on and supported, meaning both flags are set
>> 
>>   So if I'm reading this correctly whenever
>>   verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected we should expect both flags
>>   enabled. So I think all that's needed is to add a reference to
>>   X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM to the comment?
>
> Yes. I will update the comment accordingly.
>
>> I think we also need to update the assertion of vmx->disable_fb_clear?
>
> I am not quite sure about the update needed. Could you please clarify?
>
>> Anyway thanks this seems like a very clear improvement to me.
>
> Thanks for the review and suggestions!

I will drop this thread and continue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251031003040.3491385-2-seanjc@google.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-31 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29 21:26 [PATCH 0/3] Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 22:13   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:28   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 18:43     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31 11:25       ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/mmio: Rename cpu_buf_vm_clear to cpu_buf_vm_clear_mmio_only Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30  5:40     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:29   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:56     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/mmio: Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30  6:11     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:33   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  5:52     ` Yao Yuan
2025-10-30  6:17       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:52   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 16:26       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 18:06         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:54       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:28     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 18:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:11         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30  0:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 10:28   ` Borislav Petkov

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