From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 11:25:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDWGY8JOYRIO.2XYJMYGEEVLIX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251030184354.qwulxmbxkt6thu6b@desk>
On Thu Oct 30, 2025 at 6:43 PM UTC, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 12:28:06PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> On Wed Oct 29, 2025 at 9:26 PM UTC, Pawan Gupta wrote:
>> > TSA mitigation:
>> >
>> > d8010d4ba43e ("x86/bugs: Add a Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigation")
>> >
>> > introduced VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS for guests on AMD CPUs. Currently on Intel
>> > CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS is being used for guests which has a much broader scope
>> > (kernel->user also).
>> >
>> > Make mitigations on Intel consistent with TSA. This would help handling the
>> > guest-only mitigations better in future.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
>> > ---
>> > arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c | 9 +++++++--
>> > arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmenter.S | 3 ++-
>> > 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > index d7fa03bf51b4517c12cc68e7c441f7589a4983d1..6d00a9ea7b4f28da291114a7a096b26cc129b57e 100644
>> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
>> > @@ -194,7 +194,7 @@ DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(switch_mm_cond_l1d_flush);
>> >
>> > /*
>> > * Controls CPU Fill buffer clear before VMenter. This is a subset of
>> > - * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
>> > + * X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM, and should only be enabled when KVM-only
>> > * mitigation is required.
>> > */
>>
>> So if I understand correctly with this patch the aim is:
>>
>> X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF means verw before exit to usermode
>>
>> X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM means unconditional verw before VM Enter
>>
>> cpu_buf_vm_clear[_mmio_only] means verw before VM Enter for
>> MMIO-capable guests.
>
> Yup, thats the goal.
>
>> Since this is being cleaned up can we also:
>>
>> - Update the definition of X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF in cpufeatures.h to
>> say what context it applies to (now it's specifically exit to user)
>>
>> - Clear up how verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected relates to these
>> two flags. Thinking aloud here... it looks like this is set:
>>
>> - If MDS mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set
>>
>> - If TAA mitigations are on, meaning both flags are set
>>
>> - If MMIO mitigations are on, and the CPU has MDS or TAA. In this case
>> both flags are set, but this causality is messier.
>>
>> - If RFDS mitigations are on and supported, meaning both flags are set
>>
>> So if I'm reading this correctly whenever
>> verw_clear_cpu_buf_mitigation_selected we should expect both flags
>> enabled. So I think all that's needed is to add a reference to
>> X86_FEATURE_CLEAR_CPU_BUF_VM to the comment?
>
> Yes. I will update the comment accordingly.
>
>> I think we also need to update the assertion of vmx->disable_fb_clear?
>
> I am not quite sure about the update needed. Could you please clarify?
>
>> Anyway thanks this seems like a very clear improvement to me.
>
> Thanks for the review and suggestions!
I will drop this thread and continue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251031003040.3491385-2-seanjc@google.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-31 11:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-29 21:26 [PATCH 0/3] Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/bugs: Use VM_CLEAR_CPU_BUFFERS in VMX as well Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 22:13 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:28 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 18:43 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-31 11:25 ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/mmio: Rename cpu_buf_vm_clear to cpu_buf_vm_clear_mmio_only Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 0:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 5:40 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:29 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:56 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/mmio: Unify VERW mitigation for guests Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 0:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 6:11 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 0:33 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 5:52 ` Yao Yuan
2025-10-30 6:17 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 12:52 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 16:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 16:26 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-30 18:06 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:54 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 17:28 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 18:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:11 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-30 0:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 10:28 ` Borislav Petkov
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