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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:53:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DE623FVJ73LV.1PIGW7RLYUAX0@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251111145501.GXaRNORRWGIYQ7yFmH@fat_crate.local>

On Tue Nov 11, 2025 at 2:55 PM UTC, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 02:59:39PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> @@ -797,6 +800,24 @@ __kernel_physical_mapping_init(unsigned long paddr_start,
>>  
>>  	paddr_last = phys_pgd_init(init_mm.pgd, paddr_start, paddr_end, page_size_mask,
>>  				   prot, init, &pgd_changed);
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Set up ASI's unrestricted physmap. This needs to mapped at minimum 2M
>> +	 * size so that regions can be mapped and unmapped at pageblock
>> +	 * granularity without requiring allocations.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (asi_nonsensitive_pgd) {
>> +		/*
>> +		 * Since most memory is expected to end up sensitive, start with
>> +		 * everything unmapped in this pagetable.
>> +		 */
>> +		pgprot_t prot_np = __pgprot(pgprot_val(prot) & ~_PAGE_PRESENT);
>> +
>> +		VM_BUG_ON((PAGE_SHIFT + pageblock_order) < page_level_shift(PG_LEVEL_2M));
>> +		phys_pgd_init(asi_nonsensitive_pgd, paddr_start, paddr_end, 1 << PG_LEVEL_2M,
>> +			      prot_np, init, NULL);
>> +	}
>
> This looks weird: so you have some other function - asi_init() - which *must*
> run before this one so that the pgd is allocated. But then you check it here
> and in order to do such a "distributed" init, you export it too.
>
> Instead, I'd simply add a function call here - asi_init_physmap() or whatever
> - which is defined in asi.c and gets *only* called from here. And that
> function returns the pgd or NULL. And then you use phys_pgd_init() on it.

Well, this isn't the only place that refers to asi_nonsensitive_pgd in
this patchset - it's also used as a global from set_memory.c for the
later updates.

Still, you're right about the janky distributed init / setup ordering
issues. So yeah what you suggested with asi_init_physmap() (or whatever
we call it) still makes sense to me, it's just that we'd still have to
export it to set_memory.c

> Also, looking at kernel_map_pages_in_pgd() - and you mentioned set_memory.c
> already - and if I squint my eyes hard enough, it does look like a bunch of
> redundancy between there and init_64.c. But that's nasty code so unifying that
> would be a hard task.

Yeah :/ Some folks pointed out to me that all this logic is kinda
separated between the upper levels of pagetables which are preallocated,
and the lower level ones which are more complicated. So I am still
planning to see if I can come up with some sort of refactoring that only
affects the upper levels.

However, in the meantime I have switched tracks since David H pointed
out an opportunity for me to help out with the guest_memfd stuff [0].
That lets me start getting an interesting subset of this series without
needing any changes to the x86 code just yet.

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250924151101.2225820-1-patrick.roy@campus.lmu.de/


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-24 14:59 [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/mm/asi: Add CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-10-24 22:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-24 23:32     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25  9:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi= Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 10:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:24     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:26       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:15         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/mm: factor out phys_pgd_init() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-27 19:29   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 12:26     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 11:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:29     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:36         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:28   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:05     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:14       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:19         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-12 19:39           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-11 14:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 17:53     ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 20:50   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:31     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:40       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:08         ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-20 16:37           ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21  9:45             ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-21 11:27               ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 11:49                 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-21 12:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] mm/page_alloc: add __GFP_SENSITIVE and always set it Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 21:18   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:34     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 15:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-28 15:57         ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 16:29           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] mm: introduce for_each_free_list() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] mm: rejig pageblock mask definitions Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] mm/page_alloc: Invert is_check_pages_enabled() check Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] mm/page_alloc: remove ifdefs from pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] mm: introduce freetype_t Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:15   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 21:20   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:39     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] mm/asi: encode sensitivity in freetypes and pageblocks Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] mm/page_alloc_test: unit test pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/mm/pat: introduce cpa_fault option Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_NON_BLOCK back to _HARDER Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] mm/page_alloc: introduce ALLOC_NOBLOCK Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] mm/slub: defer application of gfp_allowed_mask Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] mm/asi: support changing pageblock sensitivity Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] mm/asi: bad_page() when ASI mappings are wrong Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/mm/asi: don't use global pages when ASI enabled Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] mm: asi_test: smoke test for [non]sensitive page allocs Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 17:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-30 19:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-01  7:12   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-01 20:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-01 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 11:05       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02  7:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 11:23   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 17:01     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 19:19       ` Brendan Jackman

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