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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: introduce abstractions for fwctl
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 12:41:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DG070VH4Z7B1.26DSDJL3VQVYA@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260128133651.365d876a.zhiw@nvidia.com>

On Wed Jan 28, 2026 at 12:36 PM CET, Zhi Wang wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 21:07:37 +0100
> "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue Jan 27, 2026 at 8:57 PM CET, Zhi Wang wrote:
>> > The fwctl_alloc_device() helper allocates a raw struct fwctl_device
>> > without private driver data here. The Rust driver object should be
>> > already allocated and initialized separately before reaching this
>> > point.
>> >
>> > We rely on the standard dev->parent chain to access the rust driver
>> > object from the fwctl callbacks.
>> 
>> (I will go for a thorough review soon, but for now a quick drive-by
>> comment.)
>> 
>> IIUC, you are saying that the user is supposed to use the private data
>> of the parent device in fwctl callbacks. Let's not make this a design
>> choice please. Instead, allow the user pass in separate private data for
>> the fwctl device as well.
>> 
>> This serves the purpose of clear ownership and lifetime of the data.
>> E.g. the fwctl device does not necessarily exist as long as the parent
>> device is bound.
>> 
>> It is a good thing if driver authors are forced to take a decision about
>> which object owns the data and what's the scope of the data.
>
> I wrote a version like this before. My initial concern of mixing Rust
> objects together with C objecs within C-allocated memory was about
> potential memory alignment issues when rust side doing CAST on the memory.
>
> I agree that providing a way to attach private data directly to the
> fwctl_device also has quite some benetifs.
>
> IMO, if we go this way, the private data from rust side needs to have
> #[repr(C)] to address the above issue all the time?

No that's not necessary. Please have a look at what I did in drm::Device::new()
[1], this should be the exact same case.

[1] https://rust.docs.kernel.org/src/kernel/drm/device.rs.html#98

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 20:42 [PATCH v2 0/2] rust: introduce abstractions for fwctl Zhi Wang
2026-01-22 20:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Zhi Wang
2026-01-22 21:17   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-23 10:25     ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-26 17:48   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-27 19:59     ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-26 18:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 19:57     ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-27 20:07       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28  0:04         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28  1:21           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 13:20             ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: introduce abstractions for fwctlg Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 14:01               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 14:59                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 15:49                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 15:56                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 16:35                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 16:39                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 17:26                           ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-28 17:30                         ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-28 17:39                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 17:40                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 11:36         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: introduce abstractions for fwctl Zhi Wang
2026-01-28 11:41           ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-01-27 20:09       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-22 20:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] samples: rust: fwctl: add sample code " Zhi Wang
2026-01-22 20:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22 21:06     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-22 21:16       ` John Hubbard
2026-01-23 10:23         ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-26 17:59   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-22 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] rust: introduce abstractions " Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-23 10:14   ` Zhi Wang

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