From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@mailbox.org>,
phasta@kernel.org, "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, lucas.demarchi@intel.com,
thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 10:57:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGC1KP1DT6YV.3LQWZXMA22L5A@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYsZHhX2IVO2kOSm@google.com>
(Cc: Xe maintainers)
On Tue Feb 10, 2026 at 12:40 PM CET, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 11:46:44AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>> On 2/10/26 11:36, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> > On Tue Feb 10, 2026 at 11:15 AM CET, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> >> One way you can see this is by looking at what we require of the
>> >> workqueue. For all this to work, it's pretty important that we never
>> >> schedule anything on the workqueue that's not signalling safe, since
>> >> otherwise you could have a deadlock where the workqueue is executes some
>> >> random job calling kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL) and then blocks on our fence,
>> >> meaning that the VM_BIND job never gets scheduled since the workqueue
>> >> is never freed up. Deadlock.
>> >
>> > Yes, I also pointed this out multiple times in the past in the context of C GPU
>> > scheduler discussions. It really depends on the workqueue and how it is used.
>> >
>> > In the C GPU scheduler the driver can pass its own workqueue to the scheduler,
>> > which means that the driver has to ensure that at least one out of the
>> > wq->max_active works is free for the scheduler to make progress on the
>> > scheduler's run and free job work.
>> >
>> > Or in other words, there must be no more than wq->max_active - 1 works that
>> > execute code violating the DMA fence signalling rules.
>
> Ouch, is that really the best way to do that? Why not two workqueues?
Most drivers making use of this re-use the same workqueue for multiple GPU
scheduler instances in firmware scheduling mode (i.e. 1:1 relationship between
scheduler and entity). This is equivalent to the JobQ use-case.
Note that we will have one JobQ instance per userspace queue, so sharing the
workqueue between JobQ instances can make sense.
Besides that, IIRC Xe was re-using the workqueue for something else, but that
doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I can only find [1], which more seems like
some custom GPU scheduler extention [2] to me...
[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18.6/source/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gpu_scheduler.c#L40
[2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18.6/source/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_gpu_scheduler_types.h#L28
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-11 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 8:13 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] rust: list: Add unsafe for container_of Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 15:25 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-04 10:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions Philipp Stanner
2026-02-05 8:57 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-06 10:23 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-09 8:19 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-09 14:58 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 8:16 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 8:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 9:06 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 9:54 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 9:15 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 10:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 10:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-10 10:46 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 11:40 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:28 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 9:57 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-02-11 10:08 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 10:28 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 11:12 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 14:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:00 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:05 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 17:27 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-10 10:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:34 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:45 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:36 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:26 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:49 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:56 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 14:00 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:06 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:32 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 15:50 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:07 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 15:45 ` Christian König
2026-02-11 8:16 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:03 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:09 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 14:22 ` Christian König
2026-02-17 14:28 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 23:20 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-17 15:01 ` Christian König
2026-02-18 9:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 10:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:49 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 14:11 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 14:50 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 8:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 9:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 9:26 ` Christian König
2026-02-05 10:16 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-05 13:16 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-06 9:32 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 10:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-06 13:24 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09 8:21 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:23 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09 11:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] rust/drm: Add DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:57 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:47 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:07 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:10 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:32 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:59 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:14 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:22 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:44 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:52 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 13:53 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:28 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:45 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 13:45 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11 14:07 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:20 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:53 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:54 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:33 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] samples: rust: Add jobqueue tester Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Daniel Almeida
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