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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@mailbox.org>,
	phasta@kernel.org, "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, lucas.demarchi@intel.com,
	thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 16:05:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGC84SJI67NG.5QGAR13XBM75@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260211160059.6e0d3b60@fedora>

On Wed Feb 11, 2026 at 4:00 PM CET, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 15:38:32 +0100
> "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed Feb 11, 2026 at 12:12 PM CET, Boris Brezillon wrote:
>> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:00:30 +0100
>> > "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:  
>> >> I.e. sharing a workqueue between JobQs is fine, but we have to ensure they can't
>> >> be used for anything else.  
>> >
>> > Totally agree with that, and that's where I was going with this special
>> > DmaFenceWorkqueue wrapper/abstract, that would only accept
>> > scheduling MaySignalDmaFencesWorkItem objects.  
>> 
>> Not sure if it has to be that complicated (for a first shot). At least for the
>> JobQ it would probably be enough to have a helper to create a new, let's say,
>> struct JobQueueWorker that encapsulates a (reference counted) workqueue, but
>> does not give access to it outside of jobq.rs.
>
> Except we need to schedule some work items that are in the
> DMA-signaling path but not directly controlled by the jobq.rs
> implementation (see [1] for the post-execution work we schedule in
> panthor).
>
> The two options I can think of are:
>
> 1. Add a an unsafe interface to schedule work items on the wq attached
>    to JobQ. Safety requirements in that case being compliance with the
>    DMA-fence signalling rules.
> 2. The thing I was describing before, where we add the concept of
>    DmaFenceWorkqueue that can only take MaySignalDmaFencesWorkItem. We
>    can then have a DmaFenceWorkqueue that's global, and pass it to the
>    JobQueue so it can use it for its own work item.
>
> We could start with option 1, sure, but since we're going to need to
> schedule post-execution work items that have to be considered part of
> the DMA-signalling path, I'd rather have these concepts clearly defined
> from the start.
>
> Mind if I give this DmaFenceWorkqueue/MaySignalDmaFencesWorkItem a try
> to see what it looks like a get the discussion going from there
> (hopefully it's just a thin wrapper around a regular
> Workqueue/WorkItem, with an extra dma_fence_signalling annotation in
> the WorkItem::run() path), or are you completely against the idea?

Not at all, I think it's a good generalization.

But I'm very skeptical about the "we allow drivers to schedule arbitrary work on
the (shared) JobQueue workqueue" part. I think drivers can just have a separate
workqueue for such use-cases.

> [1]https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.19-rc5/source/drivers/gpu/drm/panthor/panthor_sched.c#L1913

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03  8:13 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] rust: list: Add unsafe for container_of Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 15:25   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-04 10:30   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions Philipp Stanner
2026-02-05  8:57   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-06 10:23     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-09  8:19       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-09 14:58         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10  8:16           ` Christian König
2026-02-10  8:38             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10  9:06               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10  9:54                 ` Christian König
2026-02-10  9:15               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 10:15                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 10:36                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-10 10:46                     ` Christian König
2026-02-10 11:40                       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:28                         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11  9:57                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 10:08                           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 10:28                             ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:20                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:00                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 11:12                               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 14:38                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:00                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:05                                     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-02-11 15:14                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:16                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 17:27                                     ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-10 10:46                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:34                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:45                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:21                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:34                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:36                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:15                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:26                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:49                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:56                           ` Christian König
2026-02-10 14:00                             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:06                               ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:32                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 15:50                                   ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:07                             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 15:45                               ` Christian König
2026-02-11  8:16                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:03                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:09                                   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 14:22                                     ` Christian König
2026-02-17 14:28                                       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:44                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 23:20                                           ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-17 15:01                                         ` Christian König
2026-02-18  9:50                                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 10:48                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:49                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:56                     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:26                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:51                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 14:11                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 14:50                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11  8:16                             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11  9:20                               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10  9:26               ` Christian König
2026-02-05 10:16   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-05 13:16     ` Gary Guo
2026-02-06  9:32       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 10:16         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-06 13:24           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:04         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09  8:21           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:23         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09 11:30   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] rust/drm: Add DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:57   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:47     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:07       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:10           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:32             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:51               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:59           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:14             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:24               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:22           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:44             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:52               ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 13:53                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:28                   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:45             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 13:45             ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11 14:07               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:17                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:20                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:51                     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:53                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:54                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:33               ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] samples: rust: Add jobqueue tester Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Daniel Almeida

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