From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Janne Grunau" <j@jannau.net>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Fiona Behrens" <me@kloenk.dev>, "Alban Kurti" <kurti@invicto.ai>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
asahi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: pin-init: add references to previously initialized fields
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 16:02:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGPU3530XZA3.3SY27R9VIC9Y9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DFLXAD7L0MYF.39C9FW4KL917D@kernel.org>
On Sun Jan 11, 2026 at 6:06 PM CET, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Sat Dec 6, 2025 at 6:02 PM CET, Janne Grunau wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 06, 2025 at 09:23:08AM +0100, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>> On Wed Dec 3, 2025 at 11:05 PM CET, Janne Grunau wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 04:00:46PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>> >> After initializing a field in an initializer macro, create a variable
>>> >> holding a reference that points at that field. The type is either
>>> >> `Pin<&mut T>` or `&mut T` depending on the field's structural pinning
>>> >> kind.
>>> >
>>> > just as a heads up: creating references broke part of the agx firmware
>>> > init structs which uses a `#[repr(C, packed)]` struct as field in
>>> > another struct. This fails with
>>> >
>>> > | error[E0793]: reference to packed field is unaligned
>>> > | --> ../drivers/gpu/drm/asahi/initdata.rs:722:28
>>> > | |
>>> > | 722 | sub <- try_init!(raw::GlobalsSub::ver {
>>> > | | ____________________________^
>>> > | 723 | | unk_54: cfg.global_unk_54,
>>> > | 724 | | unk_56: 40,
>>> > | 725 | | unk_58: 0xffff,
>>> > | ... |
>>> > | 731 | | ..Zeroable::init_zeroed()
>>> > | 732 | | }),
>>> > | | |______________________^
>>> > | |
>>> > | = note: packed structs are only aligned by one byte, and many modern architectures penalize unaligned field accesses
>>> > | = note: creating a misaligned reference is undefined behavior (even if that reference is never dereferenced)
>>> > | = help: copy the field contents to a local variable, or replace the reference with a raw pointer and use `read_unaligned`/`write_unaligned` (loads and stores via `*p` must be properly aligned even when using raw pointers)
>>> > | = note: this error originates in the macro `$crate::__init_internal` which comes from the expansion of the macro `try_init` (in Nightly builds, run with -Z macro-backtrace for more info)
>>> >
>>> > This was easy enough to work around, I don't see how this embedding of a
>>> > `#[repr(C, packed)]` struct was necessary or at least helpful. The code
>>> > is not expected to be included in the upstream driver so it no worth
>>> > spending effort on this.
>>> >
>>> > I don't think it's likely that anyone else will run into this but I
>>> > thought I mention it at least.
>>> >
>>> > The asahi driver also ran into the discussed variable shadowing issue (a
>>> > variable was used to initialize a field of the same name and was later
>>> > used to initialize another field). This was trivially fixed by renaming
>>> > the variable.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the report, I expected the latter kind of error, but was not
>>> aware of the packed struct issue. If anyone needs a proper workaround
>>> from pin-init, let me know.
>>
>> I spoke too soon. The packed struct issue is also present in the capture
>> driver for Macbook microphones (aop_audio). Working around this issue
>> there is less obvious and more effort. I think it might be enough to use
>> unaligned u32 / u64 types already present in asahi [1].
>>
>> I'm not sure how prevalent packed structs are outside of Apple's
>> firmware interfaces. I was surprised running into the same issue in a
>> second driver but I shouldn't have been. There are plans for another
>> driver where this isssue will be present.
>>
>> A workaround on pin-init side would be appreciated. Due to the nature of
>> these packed structs I do not see a need to have access to previously
>> initialized fields. An optional way to supress the references would be
>> good enough for the cases I'm aware off.
>
> FYI, I am merging a workaround this cycle, see [1]. Gary had a good idea
> for a future patch series which I am tracking in [2].
Update on this situation, we have a problem: packed struct and the
current version of pin-init are unsound, so I'll sadly have to remove
the current workaround attribute. That is because the `[Pin]Init` trait
requires an aligned pointer as the input. Fixing this requires
introducing a new hierarchy for the Init trait that supports misaligned
writes.
If you really require this feature, then we can work something out.
Would you mind giving me a pointer to the code that you're currently
using or that you would like to support?
Cheers,
Benno
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-27 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-05 14:00 [PATCH] rust: pin-init: add references to previously initialized fields Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:44 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-06 10:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 1:57 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-07 2:07 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-07 8:41 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-07 17:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 21:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-07 21:39 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 22:51 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-07 23:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08 2:08 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-08 8:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-08 8:57 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08 19:38 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-08 20:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-10 10:12 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-05 18:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-06 14:23 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-11 21:35 ` Benno Lossin
2025-12-03 22:05 ` Janne Grunau
2025-12-06 8:23 ` Benno Lossin
2025-12-06 17:02 ` Janne Grunau
2026-01-11 17:06 ` Benno Lossin
2026-02-27 15:02 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
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