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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Cc: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 08:30:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGQ4W1S67PSM.117KBTJOHA449@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <749a803e-4167-4eb0-bf8b-da6c27dff5c2@de.bosch.com>

On Thu Feb 26, 2026 at 9:01 PM JST, Dirk Behme wrote:
<snip>
>>> I converted my simple aarch64 TMU timer example [1] over to v7 (many
>>> thanks helping with that!) and gave it a try: It works like with v2.
>>> With that:
>>>
>>> Tested-by: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
>> 
>> Really appreciated! And I think we are finally converging, so hopefully
>> no more big refactoring ahead. :) Still, please let me know if you saw
>> anything that looked off during the conversion.
>
>
> I was slightly surprised about the `set_` to `with_` change. But 
> thinking about it I think it heavily depends on the point of view:
>
> If you look at it from a physical register point of view I'm used to 
> "set" a register / bit. So looking from physical register point of view 
> I find using `set_` natural.
>
> On the other hand, if we look at the Rust "syntax" you create here like
>
> foo.with_a(4).with_b(9).write(io);
>
> we write to register foo with bits a being 4 and bits b being 9. So we 
> are doing a write *with* some bits set. From this point of view `with_` 
> fits as well.
>
> I think you mentioned that this is discussable. And I think it heavily 
> depends on the point of view you take. So I'm fine either.

This has to do with Rust conventions: we are using a builder pattern,
where fields are set by taking the register by value, and returning the
updated value. Such methods tend to be prefixed with `with_`, whereas
`set_` is typically used for in-plane modification using `&mut self`.

Now AFAICT this is not a *codified* convention, just a rather strong
unwritten one. But it seems adequate to follow it, so users are not
mistaken into thinking the setters do something different than they do.

As to why the builder pattern, this is because it is shorter to write

  io.write(reg.with_foo(true));

than

  mut foo = ...;
  reg.set_foo(true);
  io.write(reg);

and also cleaner as it removes the need for the register variable to be
mutable.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24 14:21 [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] rust: enable the `generic_arg_infer` feature Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] rust: num: add `into_bool` method " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] rust: num: make Bounded::get const Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 12:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] rust: io: add IoLoc and IoWrite types Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:02   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-27 18:16     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-28  0:33     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-01 15:11       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02  1:44         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-02 12:53           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 13:12             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-02 13:39               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-03  8:14                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03  8:31                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 14:55                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 15:05                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 16:18                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 18:39                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 18:58                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:19                             ` John Hubbard
2026-03-04 19:53                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:57                                 ` John Hubbard
2026-03-04 20:05                                 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:38                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:48                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 20:37                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:13                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 21:38                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:42                                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 22:15                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:22                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-06  5:37                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06  7:47                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 10:42                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 11:10                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 11:35                                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 12:50                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 13:20                                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 14:32                                                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 14:52                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:10                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07  0:05                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-07 21:10                                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07 21:40                                                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-08 11:43                                                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-08 11:35                                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-04 18:53                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:19   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-05 11:02     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] rust: io: use generic read/write accessors for primitive accesses Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:04   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] sample: rust: pci: use " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE v7 09/10] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] RFC: rust: io: allow fixed register values directly in `write` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-25 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Dirk Behme
2026-02-25 13:50   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-26 12:01     ` Dirk Behme
2026-02-27 23:30       ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]

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