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From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Liu Ying" <victor.liu@nxp.com>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Marco Felsch" <m.felsch@pengutronix.de>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/bridge: Fix refcount shown via debugfs for encoder_bridges_show()
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 18:32:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DH1U1NUNGZTO.13UP9EXCAC2P5@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61a51c05-7730-4b7a-85cf-5f03a7985408@nxp.com>

On Fri Mar 13, 2026 at 11:22 AM CET, Liu Ying wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 10:57:04AM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> On Fri Mar 13, 2026 at 9:33 AM CET, Liu Ying wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2026 at 06:30:22PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>>> Hello Liu, Maxime,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu Mar 12, 2026 at 7:05 AM CET, Liu Ying wrote:
>>>>> A typical bridge refcount value is 3 after a bridge chain is formed:
>>>>> - devm_drm_bridge_alloc() initializes the refcount value to be 1.
>>>>> - drm_bridge_add() gets an additional reference hence 2.
>>>>> - drm_bridge_attach() gets the third reference hence 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> This typical refcount value aligns with allbridges_show()'s behaviour.
>>>>> However, since encoder_bridges_show() uses
>>>>> drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped() to automatically get/put the
>>>>> bridge reference while iterating, a bogus reference is accidentally
>>>>> got when showing the wrong typical refcount value as 4 to users via
>>>>> debugfs.  Fix this by caching the refcount value returned from
>>>>> kref_read() while iterating and explicitly decreasing the cached
>>>>> refcount value by 1 before showing it to users.
>>>>
>>>> Good point, indeed the refcount shown by
>>>> <debugfs>/dri/<card>/encoder-0/bridges is by one unit higher than the one
>>>> shown in <debugfs>/dri/bridges. I understand it's puzzling from a debugfs
>>>> user point of view.
>>>>
>>>> As you noticed, this is because the _scoped loop holds an extra ref on the
>>>> current bridge.
>>>>
>>>> For other reasons I proposed a mutex for stronger protection around the
>>>> bridge chain [v2]. With the mutex the extra ref is redundant, so in [v2]
>>>> the extra ref is removed, thus making your patch unneeded. However Maxime
>>>> asked to keep the extra ref, and so my latest iteration [v4] still has the
>>>> extra ref.
>>>>
>>>> That series is still on the mailing list, we are still in time to rediscuss
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> @Maxime: based on the issue Liu is trying to work around, do you think it
>>>> would make sense to go back to the initial approach for that series?
>>>> I.e. drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped() grabs the chain lock, which is a
>>>> superset of the per-bridge refcount, and thus the refcount can be dropped?
>>>> This would remove the debugfs issue, slightly simplify
>>>> drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped(), and introduce no new issues AFAIK.
>>>
>>> Just my take on the chain lock approach - I agree Maxime's comment on [v2]
>>> that keeping the get/put is a better than using the chain lock to ensure
>>> the refcount is correct.  The chain lock could be added later on if needed.
>>
>> Well, no, adding the chain mutex is necessary(*), otherwise Thread A could
>> iterate over the chain while thread B is adding/removing bridges to/from
>> the chain.
>>
>> And the chain mutex is a superset of the per-bridge refcount, so when
>> adding the mutex the refcount inside drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain_scoped()
>> becomes useless (and slightly hurting as it makes the refcount shown in
>> debugfs inconsistent, as you noticed).
>
> For better code readability, I think keeping the get/put is fine even if
> you add a lock

The [v4] code with the removal of the extra refcount would not be more
complex. It would be a bit less code (no need for the DEFINE_FREE and
__free()). Maybe it'd need an extra comment to clarify when the
drm_bridge_put() is called.

[v4] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113-drm-bridge-alloc-encoder-chain-mutex-v4-4-60f3135adc45@bootlin.com/

> (maybe RCU list is better than mutex, since the chain is
> read often).  That follows the idea that you mentioned in [1]: "every
> pointer to a drm_bridge stored somewhere is a reference to a bridge".

That's true. However while it's an important pointer hygiene rule for
device drivers, for core code it's OK to deviate when there is a reason.

> Plus, seems no performance issue with the get/put, as discussed in [v2].

I confirm performance is surely not an issue here.

All that said, I'm OK with either option:

 * no ref taken when the mutex is added
 * ref taken when the mutex is added (as v4) + your patch to fix debugfs

Luca

--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12  6:05 [PATCH] drm/bridge: Fix refcount shown via debugfs for encoder_bridges_show() Liu Ying
2026-03-12 17:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-13  8:33   ` Liu Ying
2026-03-13  9:57     ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-13 10:22       ` Liu Ying
2026-03-13 17:32         ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-03-16  9:47           ` Liu Ying
2026-03-16 11:14             ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-17  2:04               ` Liu Ying
2026-03-17  8:15                 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-16 11:15 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-03-17  2:35   ` Liu Ying
2026-03-17  8:15     ` Luca Ceresoli

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