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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 12/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add page table entry operation traits
Date: Tue, 05 May 2026 14:37:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DIAI11D10037.VHN3R751EYJS@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd210abc-590f-4011-8337-21b54780fd4c@nvidia.com>

On Tue May 5, 2026 at 4:28 AM JST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>
>
> On 5/4/2026 10:31 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Sun May 3, 2026 at 4:19 AM JST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>> Please reorder things so they land, as much as possible, in their final
>>>> form. In this case this probably means defining the trait *before* the V2
>>>> and V3 page table definitions, so they can implement it from the get-go.
>>>
>>> That is a reasonable approach too, I can try to do that, but it is
>>> misleading to say '270 lines of diff that reviewers will have processed for
>>> nothing' which is nothing but fiction. Please look more carefully, the
>>> patch is iterative on the series.
>> 
>> For context, here is where the 270 lines of diff come from:
>> 
>>  drivers/gpu/nova-core/mm/pagetable/ver2.rs | 150 ++++++++------
>>  drivers/gpu/nova-core/mm/pagetable/ver3.rs | 120 +++++++----
>> 
>> But the number is not important.
>
> It is important, numbers and accuracy are really important things
> especially on the Linux kernel mailing list. Sorry if you feel that is
> inconvenient. And even quoting the 270 is a falsehood, the 270 lines were
> not refactored, only 90 lines or so was.

I am not particularly attached to this 270 number. It represents the
diff that I believe shouldn't be in this commit. Counting the number of
changed lines is also perfectly valid.

But again, that's not the point. Let's set my metric aside: we still
have, by your own account, 90 lines of churn that could be avoided by
the following 3 steps, each of which takes one minute to perform:

- Move the trait definitions of `pagetable.rs` into their own commit.
- Move that new commit before the ones introducing `ver2.rs` and
  `ver3.rs`.
- Squash the relevant parts of the remainder into the commit introducing
  `ver2.rs` or `ver3.rs`.

By doing that, on top of removing 90 lines of immediate follow-up
changes, you have also moved the public interface of the page tables
before their implementation, making all 3 patches easier to process as
reviewers are now introduced to how that code will be used *before* the
implementation details.

That's my closing argument on this topic and I won't insist if you are
not convinced this is worth doing; please act on it, or not, as you see
fit.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-05  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-25 21:14 [PATCH v12 00/22] gpu: nova-core: Add memory management support Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 01/22] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Return GspStaticInfo from boot() Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:41   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 02/22] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Extract usable FB region from GSP Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:41   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 03/22] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Expose total physical VRAM end from FB region info Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:41   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 04/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add support to use PRAMIN windows to write to VRAM Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:41   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 05/22] docs: gpu: nova-core: Document the PRAMIN aperture mechanism Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 06/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add common memory management types Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 07/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add TLB flush support Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 08/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add GpuMm centralized memory manager Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 09/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add common types for all page table formats Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-05-02 17:55     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-05-04 14:27       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 10/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add MMU v2 page table types Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 11/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add MMU v3 " Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 12/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add page table entry operation traits Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-05-02 19:19     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-05-04 14:31       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-05-04 19:28         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-05-04 19:42           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-04 19:50             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-05-04 23:50               ` Joel Fernandes
2026-05-05  5:37           ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 13/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add page table walker for MMU v2/v3 Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 14/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add Virtual Memory Manager Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 15/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add virtual address range tracking to VMM Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 16/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add multi-page mapping API " Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 17/22] gpu: nova-core: Add BAR1 aperture type and size constant Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 18/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add BAR1 user interface Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 19/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add BAR1 memory management self-tests Joel Fernandes
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 20/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add PRAMIN aperture self-tests Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 21/22] gpu: nova-core: mm: pramin: drop useless as_ref() in run_self_test Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-25 21:14 ` [PATCH v12 22/22] rust: maple_tree: implement Send and Sync for MapleTree Joel Fernandes
2026-05-02 15:42   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-05-02 17:36     ` Joel Fernandes

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