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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"Hongling Zeng" <zenghongling@kylinos.cn>
Cc: "lyude@redhat.com" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"rongqianfeng@vivo.com" <rongqianfeng@vivo.com>,
	"airlied@gmail.com" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"kees@kernel.org" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"simona@ffwll.ch" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, "Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	"nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org" <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"airlied@redhat.com" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com"
	<maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"zenghongling@kylinos.cn" <zenghongling@kylinos.cn>,
	"tzimmermann@suse.de" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mripard@kernel.org" <mripard@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Revert cleanups for IS_ERR_OR_NULL() usage
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 22:48:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DIULSRTZPQ0H.39RB5RF1NTFYA@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f4b7a4a89a253e515b009ccfa7ddfd21853b64d.camel@nvidia.com>

On Thu May 28, 2026 at 10:23 PM CEST, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On Thu, 2026-05-28 at 21:44 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> 
>> @Timur: I do think cleaning this up is the right call in general though, and I
>> also don't think that the whole driver necessarily needs to be consistent on
>> whether IS_ERR_OR_NULL() or IS_ERR() is used -- it depends on the context
>> (although I usually prefer not to mix up NULL and ERR semantics in the first
>> place).
>> 
>> It should however be consistent in terms of what functions can actually return.
>> 
>> 	ret = foo();
>> 	if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(ret))
>> 		return ret;
>> 
>> If foo() can never return NULL, the above is misleading, as it puts an
>> obligation on the caller to somehow handle the NULL case and come up with an
>> actual error code for it.
>
> Sure, I get that.  My point is that it's often not clear whether foo() actually can never return
> NULL.  
>
> It's been a while since I've dug through the RPC call chains in Nouveau, so my memory is a little
> hazy here.  I do remember noticing that Nouveau frequently has situations where foo() call bar1()
> and bar2(), where bar1() can return NULL but bar2() can't.  So the question is not whether foo() can
> return NULL, it's whether bar1() should not return NULL, or whether bar2() should.

If there are multiple, it has to be the superset of course.

>> So, I think it is the right call to align that to what functions can actually
>> return, but while doing this, the contract should be properly documented, such
>> that subsequent changes can be properly validated.
>
> "Properly documented" and "Nouveau" are not two things that go together.

Unfortunately -- but the changes submitted by Hongling can add the documentation
for the places that are touched.

@Hongling, can you consider this in a v2 please?

Thanks,
Danilo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-28 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-28 19:27 [PATCH 0/5] Revert cleanups for IS_ERR_OR_NULL() usage Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] Revert "nouveau/gsp/rm: cleanup remaining IS_ERR_OR_NULL usage" Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "nouveau/gsp/rm: cleanup IS_ERR_OR_NULL in core implementation" Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] Revert "nouveau/gsp/rm: cleanup WARN_ON(IS_ERR_OR_NULL)" Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] Revert "nouveau/gsp: cleanup IS_ERR_OR_NULL in rpc_rd" Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] Revert "nouveau/gsp: cleanup IS_ERR_OR_NULL in rm_alloc functions" Lyude Paul
2026-05-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] Revert cleanups for IS_ERR_OR_NULL() usage Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-28 19:49   ` lyude
2026-05-28 20:23   ` Timur Tabi
2026-05-28 20:48     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-05-28 20:12 ` Timur Tabi
2026-05-28 21:07 ` Danilo Krummrich

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