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From: "Brendan Jackman" <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Harry Yoo" <harry@kernel.org>,
	"Brendan Jackman" <jackmanb@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "Zi Yan" <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Oscar Salvador" <osalvador@suse.de>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Joshua Hahn" <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	"Rakie Kim" <rakie.kim@sk.com>,
	"Byungchul Park" <byungchul@sk.com>,
	"Ying Huang" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Hao Li" <hao.li@linux.dev>, "Christoph Lameter" <cl@gentwo.org>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Gregory Price" <gourry@gourry.net>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Hao Ge" <hao.ge@linux.dev>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof()
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 16:56:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJMJIZGFZHEQ.3IIRFIZYFGB6O@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11a6d404-dc87-442a-9f2c-9cf34cae4869@kernel.org>

On Tue Jun 30, 2026 at 3:34 PM UTC, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/30/26 15:36, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/29/26 10:11 PM, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>>> Currently the core allocator code is controlled by ALLOC_NOLOCK, but the
>>> main entry point function is significantly different from the normal
>>> __alloc_frozen_pages_nolock(), this is tiring when reading the code.
>>> 
>>> Plumb the ALLOC_NOLOCK control one layer up in the call stack: create
>>> an alloc_flags argument to __alloc_frozen_pages_nolock() (which is only
>>> exposed to mm/) and then turn the nolock variant into a thin wrapper
>>> that just sets that flag (as well as handling NUMA_NO_NODE, similar to
>>> how some of the wrappers in gfp.h do).
>>> 
>>> Rationale that this doesn't change anything:
>>>
>>> 1. Simple bits: A bunch of the nolock-specific handling is just moved to
>>>    the new alloc_order_allowed(), alloc_trylock_allowed() and
>>>    gfp_trylock.
>> 
>> Right.
>> 
>>> 2. __alloc_frozen_pages_noprof() has some extra logic that wasn't
>>>    previously in the nolock variant:
>>> 
>>>    a. Application of gfp_allowed_mask; this only affects early boot, and
>>>       only flags that affect the slowpath get changed here.
>> 
>> gfp_allowed_mask clears __GFP_RECLAIM, and that means now allocations
>> with GFP_KERNEL during early boot would see
>> gfpflags_allow_spinning() = false.
>
> Is it a problem though? non-nolock allocations were affected before (the
> masking existed for those already) and will be affected now the same, and
> _nolock() allocations don't pass __GFP_RECLAIM in the first place, so the
> masking can't affect them?

This was my thinking too.

>> The helper is not used in in the page allocator, but used in
>> memcg/stackdepot/page_owner.
>> 
>>>    b. Application of current_gfp_context() - also only affects the
>>>       slowpath
>> 
>> PF_MEMALLOC_PIN affects the fast path, but ALLOC_NOLOCK users
>> won't be affected.
>
> And it wouldn't be wrong if they were? It only clears __GFP_MOVABLE?
>
>> What about alloc_flags_nofragment/nonblocking()?
>
> ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT due to e.g. defrag_mode could be a problem indeed, if
> there's no slowpath. Make ALLOC_NOLOCK override it?

Yeah calling alloc_flags_nofragment() here is a bug in the patch,
and Sashiko also complained: 

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260629142921.9A05A1F000E9@smtp.kernel.org/

Like I said in the reply to that thread I think maybe we _do_ want to
set ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT for nolock allocations? But, that is a functional
change, it doesn't belong in this series.

> nonblocking() is probably fine?

Yeah, I believe this is fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-30 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-0-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 14:00 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] mm: Some cleanups for page allocator APIs Mike Rapoport
2026-06-29 14:30   ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:05     ` Brendan Jackman
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-13-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 15:27   ` [PATCH v3 13/16] mm: Remove __alloc_pages_node() sashiko-bot
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-9-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 15:31   ` -EXT-[PATCH v3 09/16] KVM: VMX: Use higher-level allocator API Soderlund, David
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-16-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 16:02   ` [PATCH v3 16/16] mm: remove the __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 10:04     ` Brendan Jackman
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-11-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 15:04   ` [PATCH v3 11/16] sgi-xp: Use higher-level allocator API sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 18:47   ` Steve Wahl
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-15-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 15:56   ` [PATCH v3 15/16] mm: replace __GFP_NO_CODETAG with ALLOC_NO_CODETAG sashiko-bot
2026-06-30  4:34     ` Hao Ge
2026-06-30  1:55   ` Hao Ge
2026-06-30 10:10     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:01     ` Brendan Jackman
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-1-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-30 12:27   ` [PATCH v3 01/16] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_TRYLOCK -> ALLOC_NOLOCK Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-2-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-30 12:38   ` [PATCH v3 02/16] mm/page_alloc: some renames to clarify alloc_flags scopes Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 17:25     ` Brendan Jackman
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-3-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-30 12:43   ` [PATCH v3 03/16] mm: name some args in a function declaration Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-6-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-30 13:52   ` [PATCH v3 06/16] mm/page_alloc: relax GFP WARN in nolock allocs Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 16:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-4-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 14:16   ` [PATCH v3 04/16] mm: Split out internal page_alloc.h sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 13:54   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-5-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-29 14:29   ` [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof() sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 15:27     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:36   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 15:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 16:56       ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2026-06-30 17:04     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 16:16   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 18:47     ` Brendan Jackman
     [not found] ` <20260629-alloc-trylock-v3-7-57bef0eadbc2@google.com>
2026-06-30 16:42   ` [PATCH v3 07/16] mm: move some stuff to mm/page_alloc.h Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)

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