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From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	"Paolo Valerio" <pvalerio@redhat.com>,
	"Nicolai Buchwitz" <nb@tipi-net.de>,
	"Vladimir Kondratiev" <vladimir.kondratiev@mobileye.com>,
	"Gregory CLEMENT" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Benoît Monin" <benoit.monin@bootlin.com>,
	"Tawfik Bayouk" <tawfik.bayouk@mobileye.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 00/15] net: macb: implement context swapping
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 18:17:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKC1I0FXMZJM.3ESMASUANI66R@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55b10825-5ecb-4abc-8551-bc4fc3c20365@redhat.com>

Hello Paolo,

On Thu Jul 30, 2026 at 1:52 PM CEST, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On 7/24/26 5:29 PM, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>> MACB has a pretty primitive approach to buffer management. They are all
>> stored in `struct macb *bp`. On operations that require buffer realloc
>> (set_ringparam & change_mtu at the moment), the only option is to close
>> the interface, change our global state and re-open the interface.
>> 
>> Two issues:
>> - It doesn't fly on memory pressured systems; we free our precious
>>   buffers and don't manage to reallocate fully, meaning our machine
>>   just lost its network access.
>> - Anecdotally, it is pretty slow because it implies a full PHY reinit.
>> 
>> Instead, we shall:
>>  - allocate a new context (including buffers) first
>>  - if it fails, early return without any impact to the interface
>>  - stop interface
>>  - update global state (bp, netdev, etc)
>>  - pass newly allocated buffer pointers to the hardware
>>  - start interface
>>  - free old context
>> 
>> This is what we implement here. Both .set_ringparam() and
>> .ndo_change_mtu() are covered by this series. In the future,
>> at least .set_channels() [0], XDP [1] and XSK [2] would benefit.
>> 
>> The change is super intrusive so conflicts will be major. Sorry!
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> During iteration V3, the LLM raised many race conditions because BH
>> features aren't disabled at close and might do a variety of bad things
>> (interact with NAPI while disabled or re-arm IRQs). This is NOT fixed
>> here. Here we focus on swap, not close. The series is way too long
>> already.
> Note that Sashiko gemini has more to say:
>
> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260724-macb-context-v5-0-569b1852bc7f%40bootlin.com
>
> At least the possible deadlock in patch 13/15 looks real to me.

Thanks. I've patched it by moving printk() calls out of the bp->lock
critical section. I'll appear in next revision.

>
> Please also note net-next commit c82ff94592fb

Thanks for the hint, makes sense. I had heard "rumors" but didn't know
it was official policy. I'll make a full pass before sending next
revision (tomorrow probably).

Thanks,

--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-24 15:29 [PATCH net-next v5 00/15] net: macb: implement context swapping Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 01/15] net: macb: drop "consistent" from alloc/free function names Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 02/15] net: macb: unify device pointer naming convention Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 19:35   ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 03/15] net: macb: unify variable naming convention in at91ether functions Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 04/15] net: macb: unify queue index variable naming convention and types Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 05/15] net: macb: enforce reverse christmas tree (RCT) convention Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 06/15] net: macb: allocate tieoff descriptor once across device lifetime Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 07/15] net: macb: introduce macb_context struct for buffer management Théo Lebrun
2026-07-31 14:39   ` Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 08/15] net: macb: avoid macb_init_rx_buffer_size() modifying state Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 09/15] net: macb: make `struct macb` subset reachable from macb_context struct Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 10/15] net: macb: change caps helpers signatures Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 11/15] net: macb: change function signatures to take contexts Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 19:36   ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-07-31 14:55   ` Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 12/15] net: macb: introduce macb_context_alloc() helper Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 13/15] net: macb: read ISR inside bp->lock critical section Théo Lebrun
2026-07-31 15:08   ` Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 14/15] net: macb: use context swapping in .set_ringparam() Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 19:38   ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-07-31 16:10   ` Théo Lebrun
2026-07-24 15:29 ` [PATCH net-next v5 15/15] net: macb: use context swapping in .ndo_change_mtu() Théo Lebrun
2026-07-31 16:21   ` Théo Lebrun
2026-07-30 11:52 ` [PATCH net-next v5 00/15] net: macb: implement context swapping Paolo Abeni
2026-07-30 16:17   ` Théo Lebrun [this message]

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