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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: dipankar@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	paul.mckenney@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: RFC: patch to allow lock-free traversal of lists with insertion
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:25:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E15sJAm-0005JL-00@wagner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:56:58 PDT." <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110120948540.31692-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

In message <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110120948540.31692-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> you
 write:
> Yes. With maybe
> 
> 	non_preempt()
> 	..
> 	preempt()
> 
> around it for the pre-emption patches.

Sure, if they want pre-emption on SMP.  Of course, then they'll want
priority inheritence.

> However, you also need to make your free _free_ be aware of the count.
> Which means that the current RCU patch is really unusable for this. You
> need to have the "count" always in a generic place (put it with the hash),
> and your schedule-time free needs to do
> 
> 	if (atomic_read(&count))
> 		skip_this_do_it_next_time

WTF?  I'll spell it out for you again:

	static inline void foo_put(struct foo *foo)
	{
		if (atomic_dec_and_test(foo->use))
			kfree(foo);
	}

Write side normal:

	lock
	unhash(foo)
	unlock
	foo_put(foo)

Write side RCU:

	lock
	unhash(foo)
	unlock
	rcu_call(foo_put, foo);
		/* ie. call foo_put(foo) "later". */

That's all.  Really.

> Do that, and the RCU patches may start looking usable for the real world.

I know you're under strain, but think harder please.

Rusty.
--
Premature optmztion is rt of all evl. --DK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-13  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-10 10:06 [Lse-tech] Re: RFC: patch to allow lock-free traversal of lists with insertion Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10 10:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-10 11:43   ` Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-12  3:27   ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-12 16:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-12 18:53       ` Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-13  7:25       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-13 14:42 Paul McKenney
2001-10-13 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-13 17:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-14  7:25     ` Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-13 18:42   ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-13 19:15     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-13 20:44     ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-13 21:19   ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-11 10:34 Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10 21:44 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10 16:00 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10 15:24 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10 16:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10 17:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-12  5:06     ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-12 16:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-12 19:50         ` Al Dunsmuir
2001-10-13  1:07         ` Paul Mackerras
2001-10-13  1:54           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-13  2:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-13  2:31               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-13  2:46                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-13  3:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-13  2:49               ` Paul Mackerras
2001-10-13  2:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-13  7:38         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <20011010182730.0077454b.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2001-10-10  9:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-11  6:50   ` Rusty Russell
2001-10-10  7:58 Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10  7:06 Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10  7:21 ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-10  9:06   ` Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10  6:54 Dipankar Sarma
2001-10-10  4:43 Paul McKenney
2001-10-09 15:45 Paul McKenney
2001-10-10  2:05 ` [Lse-tech] " Andrea Arcangeli
2001-10-10  5:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-10  5:17     ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-10  5:29       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-10  5:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-10  6:01         ` BALBIR SINGH
2001-10-10 15:23           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-10  6:16     ` Paul Mackerras
2001-10-10  6:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-10  7:36     ` Paul Mackerras
2001-10-10 15:54       ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-10 21:56         ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 22:24           ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-10 23:46             ` David S. Miller
2001-10-11  0:24               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-10-10 11:54     ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 13:24   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2001-10-10 13:41     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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