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From: Ryan Cumming <bodnar42@phalynx.dhs.org>
To: war <war@starband.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Swap vs No Swap.
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:37:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E166wqm-0004XF-00@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3BFC5A9B.915B77DF@starband.net> <E166rbB-0005LC-00@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk> <3BFD2709.31A1A85E@starband.net>
In-Reply-To: <3BFD2709.31A1A85E@starband.net>

On November 22, 2001 08:25, war wrote:
> Why have SWAP if you don't need it - answer that.?

> > BS. You don't use swap INSTEAD of RAM, but AS WELL AS. Moving less
> > frequently used data to swap allows you to put more frequently used data
> > in RAM, which DOES speed things up. (At least, it does if the VM system
> > works properly :P)

Are you even reading what they're saying? Having swap lets you move less 
frequently used data to disk in favour of having more frequently used data in 
RAM. 

Personally, I have more than enough RAM to run a fairly busy KDE2 desktop, 
and still have over 128megs in disk cache. And I still run with swap. The VM 
seems to find about 40megs of data I'm -simply not using-, and it now has the 
freedom to push that to swap so it can cache things that I -do use-. Although 
the more RAM you have, the less significant the results are, you'll find that 
in normal desktop/workstation/server use, the kernel will -always- find 
something to swap out to give itself more cache, and more cache is a very 
good thing. It's not fucking rocket science.

-Ryan

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-22 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-22  1:53 Swap vs No Swap war
2001-11-22  2:23 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-11-22  2:31   ` war
2001-11-22  2:58 ` Mark Hahn
2001-11-22  4:09 ` listmail
2001-11-22  5:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  5:30   ` war
2001-11-22  5:32     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-22  9:50       ` Christian Bornträger
2001-11-22  8:50 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 11:00 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:00   ` war
2001-11-22 16:08     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:57       ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-22 18:56         ` François Cami
2001-11-22 18:58           ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 19:17             ` François Cami
2001-11-22 19:36               ` G . Sumner Hayes
2001-11-22 20:37                 ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23  6:30       ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-23  9:13         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 16:46           ` Charles Marslett
2001-11-22 16:25   ` war
2001-11-22 16:37     ` Ryan Cumming [this message]
2001-11-22 17:39     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56       ` war
     [not found] ` <01112211150302.00690@argo>
2001-11-22 16:01   ` war
2001-11-22 16:12     ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 16:36       ` war
2001-11-22 16:33         ` Bjorn Wesen
2001-11-22 17:37         ` Thomas S. Iversen
2001-11-22 21:18           ` Mike Galbraith
2001-11-22 17:41         ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-22 17:56           ` war
2001-11-22 18:08             ` James A Sutherland
2001-11-23 22:05       ` Daniel Gryniewicz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-22 16:11 Elgar, Jeremy
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Ryan Cumming
2001-11-22 16:22 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-11-22 16:29 Elgar, Jeremy
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10111221006010.29736-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2001-11-22 16:34 ` war
2001-11-26 20:18   ` Kent Borg

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