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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	k-suganuma@mvj.biglobe.ne.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:57:08 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17I180-0000IT-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:22:15 +0100." <5.1.0.14.2.20020611120032.00aec7f0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>

In message <5.1.0.14.2.20020611120032.00aec7f0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> you write:
> >In which case, CONFIG_NR_CPUS is the only way to get the memory
> >back...
> 
> Why? You can get rid of all uses of NR_CPUS (except for using it as a max 
> capping value so none goes above it) and always use smp_num_cpus instead. 
> And make the cpu hotplug code update smp_num_cpus as appropriate.

You remove CPU 2 of 4 and the others renumber?  Everyone using per-cpu
buffers needs to write code to move them.  And what do apps bound to
CPU 3 do?  What about *their* per-cpu data structures?

> So zero penalty for non-hotplug users and loads of penalty for hotplug 
> users but frankly I couldn't care less for those. The slow path will 
> trigger so seldom it is not worth thinking about the performance hit there.

And a greater requirement for everyone using per-cpu buffers (which
are becoming more common, not less) to write more code.  And it
doesn't deal with CPU removal.

> There are a lot of ways to deal with this corner case dynamically, so 
> please use one of them. I don't buy the "lets penalise 99% of users for the 
> sake of a feature that almost noone will ever use" argument.

Sorry, you're arguing to maintain a traditionally problematic
interface for an unmeasurable time benifit, and a slight space benefit
(on SMP machines, where noone has cared space about until recently).

Now, you *could* only allocate buffers for cpus where cpu_possible(i)
is true, once the rest of the patch goes in.  That would be a valid
optimization.

Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-12  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-11  7:08 [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11  9:09   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  9:10     ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12  6:58       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  9:26         ` David S. Miller
2002-06-13  5:01           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13  5:55             ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11  9:27     ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 11:22       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  5:57         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-06-12  7:54           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  8:06             ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:25               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 13:10               ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-06-13  2:42                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  0:53       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:36       ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 10:57   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-11 17:59     ` Robert Love
2002-06-12  4:11       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 19:29     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-11 14:54       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-12 15:08           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 17:36             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 18:34               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:39                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 20:41                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 21:03                     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 21:15                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 20:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-12 20:54                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-12 20:57                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 22:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:33                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  1:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:45                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  2:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  2:21                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  8:43                             ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 18:01       ` Robert Love
2002-06-12  7:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-12  8:01   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206121226550.1533-100000@penguin.transmeta. com>
2002-06-12 21:29 ` Anton Altaparmakov

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