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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: akpm@zip.com.au, torvalds@transmeta.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, k-suganuma@mvj.biglobe.ne.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:58:23 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17I25H-0002hf-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:10:43 MST." <20020611.021043.04190747.davem@redhat.com>

In message <20020611.021043.04190747.davem@redhat.com> you write:
>    From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>    Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:09:44 +1000
> 
>    In message <3D05A9E8.FF0DA223@zip.com.au> you write:
>    > and slowdown:
>    
>    ARGH!  STOP IT!  I realize it's 'leet to be continually worrying about
>    possible microoptimizations, but I challenge you to *measure* the
>    slowdown between:
> 
> Regardless, his space arguments still hold.

	You can allocate based on cpu_possible(cpu) (which is in the
next patch) if you like, but I think you're better off fixing the
existing NR_CPUS bloat as well, and keeping all the code simple.

> I don't like having everyone eat the overhead that hotplugging cpus
> seem to entail.

	But there's an important difference between something which is
simple and unoptimized, and something which is unoptimizable.

> And remember, it's the anal "every microoptimization at all costs"
> people that keep the kernel sane and from running out of control bloat
> wise.

But it also gave us crap like net/ipv4/route.c:ip_rt_acct_read() 8(

I know *you* benchmark and read the asm during optimization, but it's
quite clear that others are so scared of "bloat" criticism that they
optimize without measuring the straightforward case *first*.

Remember, to be cool:
	1) Use bitops and memory barriers not spinlocks,
	2) Use inlines everywhere,
	3) Use likely()/unlikely() on every branch
	4) Use prefetch() everywhere,
	5) Use gotos to minimize the path length
	6) __set_current_state() not set_current_state()
	7) Pass in current as a function param

Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-12  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-11  7:08 [PATCH] 2.5.21 Nonlinear CPU support Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11  9:09   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11  9:10     ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12  6:58       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2002-06-12  9:26         ` David S. Miller
2002-06-13  5:01           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-13  5:55             ` David S. Miller
2002-06-11  9:27     ` Andrew Morton
2002-06-11 11:22       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  5:57         ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  7:54           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12  8:06             ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:25               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-12 13:10               ` Mikael Pettersson
2002-06-13  2:42                 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  0:53       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-12  8:36       ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 10:57   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-11 17:59     ` Robert Love
2002-06-12  4:11       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-11 19:29     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-11 14:54       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:32         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-06-12 15:08           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 17:36             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 18:34               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 19:39                 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 20:41                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 21:03                     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-12 21:15                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 20:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-12 20:54                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-12 20:57                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-12 22:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:33                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  1:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  1:45                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  2:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-06-13  2:21                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-06-13  8:43                             ` Helge Hafting
2002-06-11 18:01       ` Robert Love
2002-06-12  7:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-12  8:01   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206121226550.1533-100000@penguin.transmeta. com>
2002-06-12 21:29 ` Anton Altaparmakov

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