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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] new module format
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:54:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17Utwm-0004Oy-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207161446400.8911-100000@serv>

On Tuesday 16 July 2002 15:04, Roman Zippel wrote:
> 1. Properly fixing module races: I'm playing with a init/start/stop/exit
> model, this has the advantage that we can stop anyone from reusing a
> module and we only have to wait for remaining users to go away until we
> can safely unload the module.

I'm satisfied that, for filesystems at least, all the module races can be 
solved without adding start/stop, and I will present code in due course.
However, Rusty tells me there are harder cases than filesystems.  At this
point I'm waiting for a specific example.

For filesystems, we rely on the filesystem code itself to know when all users 
have gone away.  If somebody is still executing in a filesystem module after 
all umounts are done, it's a horrible nasty bug.  We might still want to play 
games with checking execution addresses of processes to see if anybody is 
still in a module, but that would just be for debug; sys_delete_module can 
rely on the filesystem's opinion about whether a module is quiescent or not.

Somebody please give me an example of why this same strategy will not
work for all types of modular code.

-- 
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-17 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-16 13:04 [RFC] new module format Roman Zippel
2002-07-17 18:54 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-07-17 20:12   ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-17 20:34     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 22:45       ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-17 23:47         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 10:01           ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-18 11:09             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 12:02               ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-18 12:13                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-19  8:42 ` Rusty Russell
2002-07-19  9:31   ` Roman Zippel
2002-07-20  4:13     ` Rusty Russell

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