From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:40:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17Uvam-0004Pz-00@starship> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1020717162206.12592A-100000@chaos.analogic.com>
On Wednesday 17 July 2002 22:31, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>
> > On Monday 15 July 2002 07:06, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > There is, of course, the option to do variable frequency (and make it
> > > integer multiples of the exposed "constant HZ" so that kernel code
> > > doesn't actually need to _care_ about the variability). There are
> > > patches to play with things like that.
> >
> > We don't have to feel restricted to integer multiples. I'll paste in my
> > earlier post, for your convenience:
> >
> > > ...If somebody wants a cruder scheduling interval than the raw timer
> > > interrupt, that's child's play, just step the interval down. The
> > > only slightly challenging thing is do that without restricting
> > > choice of rate for the raw timer and scheduler, respectively. Here,
> > > a novel application of Bresenham's algorithm (the line drawing
> > > algorithm) works nicely: at each raw interrupt, subtract the period
> > > of the raw interrupt from an accumulator; if the result is less
> > > than zero, add the period of the scheduler to the accumlator and
> > > drop into the scheduler's part of the timer interrupt.
> >
> > [which just increments the timer variable I believe]
> >
> > > This Bresenham trick works for arbitrary collections of interrupt
> > > rates, all with different periods. It has the property that,
> > > over time, the total number of invocations at each rate remains
> > > *exactly* correct, and so long as the raw interrupt runs at a
> > > reasonably high rate, displacement isn't that bad either.
> >
> > This technique is scarcely less efficient than the cruder method.
>
> It is hardly novel and I can't imagine how Bresenham or whomever
> could make such a claim to the obvious. Even the DOS writer(s) used
> this technique to get one-second time intervals from the 18.206
> ticks/per second. This is simply division by subtraction, but you
> don't throw away the remainder. Therefore, in the limit, there is
> no remainder. However, at any instant, the time can be off by as
> much as the divisor -1. FYI, you make digital filters using this
> same method, it's hardly novel.
It's novel for Linux then, because it seems not to have occured to
anyone here. I'll take your agressive response as a vote in favor.
--
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-17 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-10 19:59 HZ, preferably as small as possible Grover, Andrew
2002-07-10 21:09 ` george anzinger
2002-07-11 6:03 ` Hannu Savolainen
2002-07-11 7:15 ` george anzinger
2002-07-12 0:36 ` Stevie O
2002-07-12 0:50 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 0:55 ` Robert Love
2002-07-12 0:58 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-12 1:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-12 1:37 ` Mark Hahn
2002-07-12 1:09 ` george anzinger
2002-07-12 1:26 ` Roland Dreier
2002-07-12 17:30 ` george anzinger
2002-07-12 1:35 ` Stevie O
2002-07-12 3:01 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-07-11 12:54 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-11 15:59 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:35 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-10 21:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 21:42 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-11 2:14 ` CaT
2002-07-11 17:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-10 22:01 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:09 ` Cort Dougan
2002-07-11 13:36 ` Whoa... (was: Re: HZ, preferably as small as possible) Mark Mielke
2002-07-11 21:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-10 22:41 ` HZ, preferably as small as possible Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:47 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 22:49 ` Eli Carter
2002-07-10 23:05 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:08 ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-10 23:13 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-10 23:50 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-07-11 0:28 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-07-11 11:35 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 13:37 ` Kasper Dupont
2002-07-11 15:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 18:51 ` george anzinger
2002-07-15 5:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 16:26 ` Robert Love
2002-07-15 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 19:52 ` mbs
2002-07-15 20:01 ` yodaiken
2002-07-16 11:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-07-17 19:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-17 20:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 20:40 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-07-17 21:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-17 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 21:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 12:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 13:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-18 10:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-17 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-11 2:46 Grover, Andrew
2002-07-11 3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-07-11 11:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-11 17:08 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-11 19:21 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-16 9:17 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-07-11 20:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-12 12:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-07-15 5:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 6:56 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 8:24 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 15:48 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 18:20 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:30 ` David Mosberger
2002-07-15 16:07 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 17:06 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:43 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 18:53 ` Russell King
2002-07-15 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-15 20:15 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-15 8:58 ` Dave Mielke
2002-07-11 7:09 ` george anzinger
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