From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>,
Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:37:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IBWCZ-0000j2-3W@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8IAkZ-WW-1@gated-at.bofh.it
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:33:58 +0200
> Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
>> > 8K stacks without IRQ stacks are not "safer" so I don't understand your
>> > comment ?
>>
>> Ouch, see the reports about 4k stack crashes. I agree they're not
>> safe w/o irq stacks (like on x86-64), but they're generally safer.
>
> Still don't follow. How is "exceeds stack space but less likely to be
> noticed" safer.
If there is a tree in the forest, is it as likely to fall as the three
that's being chopped in front of our eyes? It is, because each tree will
fall eventually, but you'd still not allow your kids to play on the
tree being chopped, but you'd probably allow them to climb that other tree
like all the other kids do.
The same applies to the stack: We don't know if or when we'll see all
possible interrupts fire and kill the 8K stack, but we know for sure the
8K stack has been climbed for years and there is an axe on that 4K stack.
So where do you send the users to play?
--
What's worse than a Male Chauvinist Pig?
A woman that won't do what she's told.
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2007-07-18 8:37 ` [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-19 13:37 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
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2007-07-18 11:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-15 17:17 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 6:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18 0:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 2:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 0:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 1:37 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01 3:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01 8:11 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10 4:51 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10 4:59 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 1:03 ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 0:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 1:28 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 0:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14 ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 0:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12 4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 0:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 2:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 4:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12 6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:37 ` David Chinner
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