From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>,
Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Thomas Klein <tklein@de.ibm.com>,
Jan-Bernd Themann <themann@de.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ppc <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
Christoph Raisch <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
Marcus Eder <meder@de.ibm.com>,
Stefan Roscher <stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:04:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IOeSm-0000bm-Jo@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it
Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:59:16PM +0200, Jan-Bernd Themann wrote:
>> 3) On modern systems the incoming packets are processed very fast. Especially
>> on SMP systems when we use multiple queues we process only a few packets
>> per napi poll cycle. So NAPI does not work very well here and the interrupt
>> rate is still high.
>
> I saw this too, on a system that is "modern" but not terribly fast, and
> only slightly (2-way) smp. (the spidernet)
>
> I experimented wih various solutions, none were terribly exciting. The
> thing that killed all of them was a crazy test case that someone sprung on
> me: They had written a worst-case network ping-pong app: send one
> packet, wait for reply, send one packet, etc.
>
> If I waited (indefinitely) for a second packet to show up, the test case
> completely stalled (since no second packet would ever arrive). And if I
> introduced a timer to wait for a second packet, then I just increased
> the latency in the response to the first packet, and this was noticed,
> and folks complained.
Possible solution / possible brainfart:
Introduce a timer, but don't start to use it to combine packets unless you
receive n packets within the timeframe. If you receive less than m packets
within one timeframe, stop using the timer. The system should now have a
decent response time when the network is idle, and when the network is
busy, nobody will complain about the latency.-)
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <8VHRR-45R-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-24 19:04 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2007-08-24 20:42 ` RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:35 ` Linas Vepstas
[not found] ` <E1IOeSm-0000bm-Jo__24045.532072387$1187982363$gmane$org@be1.lrz>
2007-08-24 20:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-25 2:10 Mitchell Erblich
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-24 13:59 Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:37 ` akepner
2007-08-24 15:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-24 16:50 ` David Stevens
2007-08-24 21:44 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 16:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 17:07 ` Rick Jones
2007-08-24 17:45 ` Shirley Ma
2007-08-24 17:16 ` James Chapman
2007-08-24 18:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:47 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 22:06 ` akepner
2007-08-26 19:36 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 1:58 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 9:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 20:37 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 11:19 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:21 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 7:10 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:15 ` James Chapman
2007-08-29 8:43 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:29 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 8:31 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 15:51 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 16:02 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 17:05 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:02 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 21:41 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:56 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 9:22 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:48 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 12:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-28 14:55 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:21 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:25 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 20:27 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 16:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:43 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:37 ` David Miller
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