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From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Brent Casavant <bcasavan@sgi.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_NOLINK for open()
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:33:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IValy-0000fU-Sd@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 92Haf-7z7-5@gated-at.bofh.it

Brent Casavant <bcasavan@sgi.com> wrote:

[...]
> I could mmap a temporary tmpfs file (tmpfs so that if there is a
> machine crash no sensitive data persists) which is created with
> permissions of 0, immediately unlink it, and pass the file
> descriptor through an AF_UNIX socket.  This does open up a very
> small window of vulnerability if another process is able to chmod
> the file and open it before the unlink.

If the process can chmod the file, it can ptrace the daemon, too.
Or, using CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE, it can patch the daemon.

Both will void any security.

> However, it occurs to me that this problem goes away if there were
> a method create a file in an unlinked state to begin with.  However
> there does not appear to be any such mechanism in Linux's open()
> interface.

Having no window for creating stale temp files is nice to have. We only
need a clever fool to implement it.-) But since it's hard to get killed
just in the right moment for having a stale temp file, there is very low
interest for this feature.
-- 
You know you're in trouble when packet floods are competing to flood you.
        -- grc.com

Friß, Spammer: dnLqD2P@t.7eggert.dyndns.org npkrx@imrx.fp6.7eggert.dyndns.org

       reply	other threads:[~2007-09-12 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <92Haf-7z7-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-12 22:33 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2007-09-13  9:13   ` O_NOLINK for open() Jan Kara
2007-09-14  9:07     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <92TO5-246-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <92Zqu-2ur-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-14 10:30     ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-14 10:50       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-09-14 17:26         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-12 20:37 Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 21:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-12 21:39   ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 21:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-09-12 21:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-09-12 22:44   ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 22:49     ` Al Viro
2007-09-12 23:27       ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-12 23:48         ` Brent Casavant
2007-09-14 16:37         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2007-09-13 10:08 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-09-13 16:05   ` Brent Casavant

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