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From: "Jean Delvare" <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: ladis@linux-mips.org
Cc: "LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"LM Sensors" <sensors@Stimpy.netroedge.com>,
	"James Chapman" <jchapman@katalix.com>,
	"Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ds1337 4/4
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:08:46 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FxPJVIPZ.1112958526.4787880.khali@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050407231904.GE27226@orphique>


Hi Ladislav,

> Add support for DS1339. The only difference against DS1337 is Trickle
> Charge register at address 10h, which is used to enable battery or gold
> cap charging. Please note that value may vary for different batteries,
> so it should be made module parameter. 0xaa is sane default and also
> matches my board ;-)

"Sane default" is a non-sense here. A sane default is that loading a
real-time clock driver should not affect the battery at all IMHO.

Can you tell us more on that battery thing? I admit I don't exatcly get
what it is. Which type of battery are we talking about? Are there
similar drivers in the kernel tree already?

Sounds weird to me that loading a driver would enable charging of a
battery, and removing it wouldn't disable it. And since the driver
might not be removed, it would possibly make more sense to have an entry
in /sys to enable and disable this thing.

Also, arbitrarily picking one of the 6 possible charging modes just
because it matches your board is a bad idea. It looks like a value which
should be set on a per-board basis, rather than picked randomly by the
user, so as to avoid accidental hardware breakage.

> +static int ds1339_charge = 0xaa;

I see little reason why this would be a global variable rather than a
define (let alone the fact that this shouldn't be hardcoded at all
IMHO, as I just explained).

> +/*
> + * DS1339 has Trickle Charge register at address 10h. During a multibyte
> + * access, when the address pointer reaches the end of the register space,
> + * it wraps around to location 00h.
> + * We read 17 bytes from device and compare first and last one. If they
> + * are same it is most likely DS1337 chip.
> + */
> +static int ds1337_is_ds1339(struct i2c_client *client)
> +{
> +	char buf[17], addr = 0;
> +	struct i2c_msg msg[2];
> +	int result;
> +
> +	msg[0].addr = client->addr;
> +	msg[0].flags = 0;
> +	msg[0].len = 1;
> +	msg[0].buf = &addr;
> +
> +	msg[1].addr = client->addr;
> +	msg[1].flags = I2C_M_RD;
> +	msg[1].len = sizeof(buf);
> +	msg[1].buf = buf;
> +
> +	result = i2c_transfer(client->adapter, msg, 2);
> +	if (result < 0) {
> +		dev_err(&client->dev, "error reading data! %d\n", result);
> +		return 0;
> +	} else
> +		return (buf[0] == buf[16]) ? 0 : 1;
> +}

This will fail eventually. The first register is the seconds count, which
by definition is changing. I2C is slow, by the time you wrap over the
register range, the value could have changed. The datasheet explicitely
says that the register cache will refresh on address wrapping.

Also, 0x00 is a possible value for both the seconds count and the battery
register, so you could miss a DS1339 at times.

One possible check to start with would be on the value of the additional
register itself. It has only 7 possible values. But of course it would
be better if we could default to a DS1337 and find a way to identify the
DS1339, rather than the (unsafe) other way around. I also don't know
what a DS1337 will answer for this missing register. Maybe James can
help?

One possibility would be to start reading at 0x0E instead of 0x00,
because register 0x00 is the control register and is the only one which
will not change in our back as far as I can see. Oh, and the additional
battery register too. But this still doesn't sound like a bulletproof
method to me (we depend on the seconds and possibly minutes count
again). So it would be better to additionally perform the same tests
that were done on the non-wrapped registers for the regular DS1337
detection, but on the wrapped area.

The problem here is that all this will significantly increase the
detection delay.

Yet another method would be to write a non-significant value to the
battery register, such as 0x80. If we can read it back then it has to be
a DS1339. But what effect will it have on the DS1337? I'd hope none,
but this better be verified. And in general I don't much like using
register writes in detection methods.

Could you please provide the output of i2cdump in b and c modes for your
DS1339 chip? This might help finding an detection method. A similar dump
for the DS1337 would help too.

> -	const char *name = "";
> +	const char *name;
(...)
> +	default:
> +		name = "";
> +	}

This is noise.

Thanks,
--
Jean Delvare

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-08 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-31 23:22 [BK PATCH] I2C patches for 2.6.12-rc1 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23 ` [PATCH] i2c/i2c-ite: remove interruptible_sleep_on_timeout() usage Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23   ` [PATCH] i2c/i2c-elektor: " Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23     ` [PATCH] I2C: New lm92 chip driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23       ` [PATCH] I2C: Cleanup adm1021 unused defines Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23         ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix adm1021 alarms mask Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23           ` [PATCH] I2C: Kill unused struct members in w83627hf driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23             ` [PATCH] I2C: Make master_xfer debug messages more useful Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23               ` [PATCH] I2C: Skip broken detection step in it87 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                 ` [PATCH] I2C: group Intel on I2C Hardware Bus support Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                   ` [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                     ` [PATCH] i2c: add adt7461 chip support to lm90 driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                       ` [PATCH] I2C: Clean up of i2c-elektor.c build Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                         ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix breakage in m41t00 i2c rtc driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                           ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix some i2c algorithm initialization Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                             ` [PATCH] I2C: Kill outdated defines in i2c.h Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                               ` [PATCH] I2C: Avoid repeated resets of i2c-viapro Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                 ` [PATCH] I2C: Recognize new revision of the ADT7463 chip Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                   ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix Vaio EEPROM detection Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                     ` [PATCH] I2C: busses documentation update 1 of 2 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                       ` [PATCH] I2C: busses documentation update 2 " Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                         ` [PATCH] I2C: lost arbitration detection for PCF8584 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                           ` [PATCH] I2C: lsb in emc6d102 and adm1027 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                             ` [PATCH] I2C: Delete useless instruction in it87 Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                               ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix race condition in it87 driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                 ` [PATCH] I2C: i2c-s3c2410 functionality and fixes Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                   ` [PATCH] i2c: add adt7461 chip support to lm90 driver's Kconfig entry Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                     ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix broken force parameter handling Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                       ` [PATCH] I2C: Fix indentation of lm87 driver Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                         ` [PATCH] I2C: Drop useless w83781d RT feature Greg KH
2005-03-31 23:23                                                           ` [PATCH] i2c: i2c-mv64xxx - set adapter owner and class fields Greg KH
2005-04-07  9:45                     ` [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07  9:59                       ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-07 11:16                         ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07 13:07                           ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-07 14:28                             ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07 21:18                               ` Greg KH
2005-04-07 23:17                                 ` [PATCH] ds1337 1/4 Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07 23:36                                   ` Greg KH
2005-04-08 13:00                                     ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-08 16:31                                       ` James Chapman
2005-05-02 20:41                                       ` Greg KH
2005-04-08  8:49                                   ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-07 23:18                                 ` [PATCH] ds1337 2/4 Ladislav Michl
2005-04-08  8:51                                   ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-08 13:02                                     ` Ladislav Michl
2005-05-02 20:41                                       ` Greg KH
2005-04-07 23:18                                 ` [PATCH] ds1337 3/4 Ladislav Michl
2005-04-08 10:08                                   ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-08 13:06                                     ` Ladislav Michl
2005-05-02 20:41                                       ` Greg KH
2005-05-04  6:13                                         ` [PATCH] ds1337 1/3 Ladislav Michl
2005-05-04  8:41                                           ` Jean Delvare
2005-05-04  6:13                                         ` [PATCH] ds1337 2/3 Ladislav Michl
2005-05-04  9:44                                           ` Jean Delvare
2005-05-04  6:14                                         ` [PATCH] ds1337 3/3 Ladislav Michl
2005-05-04 10:07                                           ` Jean Delvare
2005-05-10 12:08                                             ` [PATCH] ds1337 driver works also with ds1339 chip Ladislav Michl
2005-05-10 12:40                                               ` Jean Delvare
2005-05-10 12:48                                               ` Russell King
     [not found]                                           ` <1DTwF8-18P-00@press.kroah.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <20050508204021.627f9cd1.khali@linux-fr.org>
     [not found]                                               ` <427E6E21.60001@katalix.com>
     [not found]                                                 ` <20050508222351.08bfe2e1.khali@linux-fr.org>
2005-05-10 12:18                                                   ` [PATCH] ds1337: export ds1337_do_command Ladislav Michl
2005-05-10 12:51                                                     ` Jean Delvare
2005-05-10 17:55                                                     ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 18:36                                                       ` Ladislav Michl
2005-05-10 20:30                                                         ` Greg KH
2005-05-11  8:32                                                       ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07 23:19                                 ` [PATCH] ds1337 4/4 Ladislav Michl
2005-04-08 11:08                                   ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2005-04-08 12:35                                     ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-08 16:21                                       ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-08 17:44                                       ` James Chapman
2005-04-10 19:51                                         ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-10 21:10                                           ` Jean Delvare
2005-04-12 18:10                                             ` James Chapman
2005-04-13 11:04                                               ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-13 19:02                                                 ` James Chapman
2005-04-13 19:48                                                   ` Ladislav Michl
2005-04-07 21:29                               ` [PATCH] i2c: new driver for ds1337 RTC Jean Delvare
2005-04-07 23:16                                 ` Ladislav Michl

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