From: Neal Gompa <neal@gompa.dev>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Start removing X86_X32_ABI
Date: Wed, 27 May 2026 09:41:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <GKHPxxboS_S8edPsWyCWEg@gompa.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260523093734.A3AR7reJ@linutronix.de>
On Saturday, May 23, 2026 5:37:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time Sebastian Andrzej
Siewior wrote:
> The x32 ABI was introduced in v3.4 to leverage the additional registers
> which were available on x86_64 but not on i386 while keeping the smaller
> 32bit pointers.
>
> This did not take off. The memory usage usually knows no limit and the
> better performance did not reach a point where certain workloads widely
> move to x32 and use it exclusively. In the meantime Debian introduced a
> patch to disable x32 by default (so it has to be enabled at boot time on
> the command line) because they are afraid of the increased attack
> surface. Fedora as far as I tell has X32 disabled (looking at 7.0-rc5
> rpm in rawhide).
>
> The last syscall for x86_64 is currently at 471. The first x32 starts at
> 512 which leaves 40 new syscalls in between. Without the x32 ABI, those
> syscalls could be used since x32 wouldn't be an option and therefore
> reserved.
>
> Since there is practically no real use for x32, start removing it by
> removing the symbol first, not allowing to enable it. Should nothing
> happening within the next half year, lets remove code bits around August
> after the summer break.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> ---
I'm not saying that there's a lot of users, and it may still be worth
eliminating it, but PLD Linux has actively supported x86_64 with x32 ABI for
well over a decade now. They maintain a patchset on RPM to expose this
properly (and I've attempted to create better versions for upstreaming[1][2],
and there was a third attempt[3] too).
So it isn't broadly used indeed, but it's used enough that it's probably worth
being slightly more careful about deciding to remove it.
[1]: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/360
[2]: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/1038
[3]: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/3578
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-27 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-23 9:37 [PATCH] x86: Start removing X86_X32_ABI Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-23 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-26 10:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-26 15:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-26 15:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-26 20:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-31 21:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-06-01 21:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 22:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-05-27 12:02 ` David Laight
2026-06-01 21:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-04 20:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-27 13:10 ` Sam James
2026-05-27 13:41 ` Neal Gompa [this message]
2026-05-27 15:57 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2026-06-01 21:12 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-01 21:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-28 7:05 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-06-01 21:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-31 22:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-06-02 16:02 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-06-02 16:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-06-05 3:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-02 9:48 ` Richard Purdie
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