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From: "LA Walsh" <law@sgi.com>
To: "lkml" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Linus's include file strategy redux
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:55:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <NBBBJGOOMDFADJDGDCPHIENJCJAA.law@sgi.com> (raw)

So, I brought up the idea of a linux/sys for kernel level include files.

A few other people came up with a desire of a 'kernel' dir under
include, parallel w/linux.


So I ran into a snag with that scenario.  Let's suppose we have
a module developer or a company developing a driver in their own
/home/nvidia/video/drivers/newcard directory.  Now they need to include
kernel
development files and are used to just doing the:
#include <linux/blahblah.h>

Which works because in a normal compile environment they have /usr/include
in their include path and /usr/include/linux points to the directory
under /usr/src/linux/include.

So if we create a separate /usr/src/linux/include/kernel dir, does that
imply that we'll have a 2nd link:

/usr/include/kernel ==> /usr/src/linux/include/kernel  ?

If the idea was to 'hide' kernel interfaces and make them not 'easy'
to include doesn't providing a 2nd link defeat that?

If we don't provide a 2nd link, how do module writers access kernel
includes?

If the kernel directory is under 'linux' (as in linux/sys), then the
link is already there and we can just say 'don't use sys in apps'.  If
we create 'kernel' under 'include', it seems we'll still end up having to
tell users "don't include files under directory "x"' (either kernel/ or
linux/sys/)

Note that putting kernel as a new directory parallel to linux requires
adding another symlink -- so is that solving anything or adding more
administrative "gotcha's"?

-linda

--
L A Walsh                        | Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI
law@sgi.com                      | Voice/Vmail: (650) 933-5338

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             reply	other threads:[~2000-12-15  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <91gr99$bs81o$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2000-12-14 23:55 ` LA Walsh [this message]
2000-12-15  0:14   ` Linus's include file strategy redux Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:17     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:39       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:33     ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15  0:48       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:56         ` David Riley
2000-12-15  1:05           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  4:24             ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:30       ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-12-15 14:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2000-12-15 15:23       ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-15 22:28         ` Alex Buell
2000-12-16 22:41         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 15:51           ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-18 17:08             ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 19:32             ` David Schleef
2000-12-18 17:04         ` richard offer
2000-12-19  5:16           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15  0:15   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  7:21     ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 11:05       ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-12-15 14:21     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 17:15       ` ferret
2000-12-15 17:46         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 20:29           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 21:27             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 22:58               ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 23:56                 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16 22:50                 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  0:04                   ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-17  2:05                     ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 18:10       ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 21:02         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-16  4:04           ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:09             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-16 17:20               ` ferret
2000-12-17  0:21                 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-16 23:10           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  1:15             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-17  2:18               ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 21:21         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 21:36           ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 22:48           ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-15 23:47             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16  4:11             ` ferret
2000-12-16  2:50         ` richard offer
2000-12-16  4:22           ` What about 'kernel package'? was: " ferret
2000-12-15 19:35       ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-12-15 21:36         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-18 17:48 Petr Vandrovec

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