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From: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl
To: bcrl@redhat.com, viro@math.psu.edu
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:19:19 +0200 (MET DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <UTC200105191419.QAA53656.aeb@vlet.cwi.nl> (raw)

Alexander Viro writes:

> Folks, before you get all excited about cramming side effects
> into open(2), consider ...

I agree completely.

> A lot of stuff relies on the fact that close(open(foo, O_RDONLY))
> is a no-op. Breaking that assumption is a Bad Thing(tm).

Also here I would like to agree. Unfortunately this is false.
Opening device files often has interesting side effects.

Andries

             reply	other threads:[~2001-05-19 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-19 14:19 Andries.Brouwer [this message]
2001-05-19 14:58 ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup) Alexander Viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-19 16:41 Andries.Brouwer
2001-05-19 16:51 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 17:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2001-05-19 23:24     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20 11:18 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2001-05-19  6:23 [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup, partion code in userspace Ben LaHaise
2001-05-19 13:57 ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device arguments from lookup) Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 15:10   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device " Abramo Bagnara
2001-05-19 15:18     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 16:01     ` Willem Konynenberg
2001-05-20 20:52       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-20 20:53       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 18:13   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device " Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 23:19     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-19 23:31       ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device " Jeff Garzik
2001-05-19 23:32         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-19 23:39         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-21 17:16           ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 16:26             ` David Lang
2001-05-21 18:04               ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-21 20:14             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-22 15:24               ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 16:51                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-22 17:49                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 20:22                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23  4:19                   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-23  4:50                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-23 13:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23 13:50                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23 15:58                       ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-24  0:23                       ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-24  7:47                         ` Marko Kreen
2001-05-24 14:39                           ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-24 17:25                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-24 20:59                           ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-24 21:26                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-25  1:03                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-25 11:00                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-26  3:07                               ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-26 22:36                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-27 13:32                                   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-27 20:40                                     ` Ben LaHaise
2001-05-27 20:45                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-27 21:50                                       ` Marko Kreen
2001-05-28  1:26                                       ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-29 10:54                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-29 13:54                                           ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-19 23:52   ` Edgar Toernig
2001-05-20  0:18     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-20  0:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-20  0:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-20  1:03         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-05-21  9:45           ` Andrew Clausen
2001-05-21 17:22           ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-05-22 18:53           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-24  9:20             ` Malcolm Beattie
2001-05-24 19:15               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 18:41         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 19:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-22 19:16             ` Peter J. Braam
2001-05-22 20:10               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-22 20:59                 ` Peter J. Braam
2001-05-23  9:23                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-24 21:07                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-24 22:00                   ` Hans Reiser
2001-05-25 10:56                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-23  9:13               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20 20:23   ` Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH] device " Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:38     ` Alexander Viro

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