From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
Mike Kravetz <mkravetz@sequent.com>
Subject: Re: CPU affinity & IPI latency
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:41:44 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <XFMail.20010713094144.davidel@xmailserver.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010712173641.C11719@work.bitmover.com>
On 13-Jul-2001 Larry McVoy wrote:
> Be careful tuning for LMbench (says the author :-)
>
> Especially this benchmark. It's certainly possible to get dramatically
> better
> SMP numbers by pinning all the lat_ctx processes to a single CPU, because
> the benchmark is single threaded. In other words, if we have 5 processes,
> call them A, B, C, D, and E, then the benchmark is passing a token from
> A to B to C to D to E and around again.
>
> If the amount of data/instructions needed by all 5 processes fits in the
> cache and you pin all the processes to the same CPU you'll get much
> better performance than simply letting them float.
>
> But making the system do that naively is a bad idea.
Agree.
>
> This is a really hard area to get right but you can take a page from all
> the failed process migration efforts. In general, moving stuff is a bad
> idea, it's much better to leave it where it is. Everything scales better
> if there is a process queue per CPU and the default is that you leave the
> processes on the queue on which they last run. However, if the load average
> for a queue starts going up and there is another queue with a substantially
> lower load average, then and ONLY then, should you move the process.
I personally think that a standard scheduler/cpu is the way to go for SMP.
I saw the one IBM guys did and I think that the wrong catch there is trying
always to grab the best task to run over all CPUs.
I think that this concept could be relaxed introducing less chains between each
CPU scheduler.
A cheap load balancer should run, "time to time"(tm), to move tasks when a
certain level of unbalancing has been reached.
This will give each scheduler more independence and will make it more scalable,
IMVHO.
> This is an area in which I've done a pile of work and I'd be interested
> in keeping a finger in any efforts to fix up the scheduler.
We've, somehow, understood it :)
- Davide
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-13 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-12 23:40 CPU affinity & IPI latency Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 0:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13 0:36 ` Larry McVoy
2001-07-13 2:06 ` Mark Hahn
2001-07-13 16:41 ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2001-07-13 17:31 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:17 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13 19:39 ` [Lse-tech] " Gerrit Huizenga
2001-07-13 20:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13 17:05 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:51 ` David Lang
2001-07-13 22:43 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-15 20:02 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-15 20:10 ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 20:15 ` Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 20:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 15:46 ` [Lse-tech] " Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:54 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 7:42 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-07-15 9:05 ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 17:00 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-07-16 0:58 ` Mike Kravetz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-14 3:25 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 16:14 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-16 21:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 10:10 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 16:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 18:26 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 21:45 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 22:56 ` Davide Libenzi
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