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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Mike Kravetz <mkravetz@sequent.com>
Cc: lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Subject: Re: CPU affinity & IPI latency
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:17:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <XFMail.20010713121737.davidel@xmailserver.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010713103144.E1137@w-mikek2.des.beaverton.ibm.com>


On 13-Jul-2001 Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 09:41:44AM -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote:
>> 
>> I personally think that a standard scheduler/cpu is the way to go for SMP.
>> I saw the one IBM guys did and I think that the wrong catch there is trying
>> always to grab the best task to run over all CPUs.
> 
> That was me/us.  Most of the reason for making 'global scheduling'
> decisions was an attempt to maintain the same behavior as the existing
> scheduler.  We are trying to see how well we can make this scheduler
> scale, while maintaining this global behavior.  Thought is that if
> there was ever any hope of someone adopting this scheduler, they would
> be more likely to do so if it attempted to maintain existing behavior.

The problem, IMHO, is that we're trying to extend what is a correct behaviour on
the UP scheduler ( pickup the best task to run ) to SMP machines.
Global scheduling decisions should be triggered in response of load unbalancing
and not at each schedule() run otherwise we're going to introduce a common lock
that will limit the overall scalability.
My idea about the future of the scheduler is to have a config options users can
chose depending upon the machine use.
By trying to keep a unique scheduler for both UP and MP is like going to give
the same answer to different problems and the scaling factor ( of the scheduler
itself ) on SMP will never improve.
The code inside kernel/sched.c should be reorganized ( it contains even not
scheduler code ) so that the various CONFIG_SCHED* will not introduce any messy
inside the code ( possibly by having the code in separate files
kernel/sched*.c ).




- Davide


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-13 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-12 23:40 CPU affinity & IPI latency Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13  0:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13  0:36   ` Larry McVoy
2001-07-13  2:06     ` Mark Hahn
2001-07-13 16:41     ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13 17:31       ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:17         ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2001-07-13 19:39           ` [Lse-tech] " Gerrit Huizenga
2001-07-13 20:05             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-13 17:05     ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:51       ` David Lang
2001-07-13 22:43         ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-15 20:02           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-15 20:10             ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 20:15           ` Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 20:31             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 15:46             ` [Lse-tech] " Mike Kravetz
2001-07-13 19:54       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15  7:42 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-07-15  9:05   ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2001-07-15 17:00     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-07-16  0:58       ` Mike Kravetz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-14  3:25 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 16:14 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-07-16 21:25   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 10:10 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 16:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-16 18:26 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 21:45 Hubertus Franke
2001-07-16 22:56 ` Davide Libenzi

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