From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hu Chunyu <chuhu@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] kernel/fork: beware of __put_task_struct calling context
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:08:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+Z6H4eiWChxHF4a@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230206170927.9d5afee653dfa0738983dbfa@linux-foundation.org>
On 2023-02-06 17:09:27 [-0800], Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 10:04:47 -0300 Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Under PREEMPT_RT, __put_task_struct() indirectly acquires sleeping
> > locks. Therefore, it can't be called from an non-preemptible context.
>
> Well that's regrettable. Especially if non-preempt kernels don't do
> this.
Non-preemptible context on PREEMPT_RT. Interrupts handler and timers
don't count as non-preemptible because interrupt handler are threaded
and hrtimers are invoked in softirq context (which is preemptible on
PREEMPT_RT).
This here is different because the hrtimer in question was marked as
HRTIMER_MODE_REL_HARD. In this case it is invoked in hardirq context as
requested with all the problems that follow.
> Why does PREEMPT_RT do this and can it be fixed?
PREEMPT_RT tries to move as much as it can out of hardirq context into
preemptible context. A spinlock_t is preemptible on PREEMPT_RT while
it is not in other preemption models. The scheduler needs to use
raw_spinlock_t in order to be able to schedule a task from
hardirq-context without a deadlock.
For memory allocation only sleeping locks (spinlock_t) is used since
there are no memory allocation/ deallocation on PREEMPT_RT in hardirq
context. These two need to be separated.
> If it cannot be fixed then we should have a might_sleep() in
> __put_task_struct() for all kernel configurations, along with an
> apologetic comment explaining why.
__put_task_struct() should not be invoked in atomic context on
PREEMPT_RT. It is fine however in a regular timer hrtimer. Adding
might_sleep() will trigger a lot of false positives on a preemptible
kernel and RT.
A might_lock() on a spinlock_t should do the trick from LOCKDEP
perspective if CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING is enabled.
In this case it should be visible due to rq-lock or due to hrtimer.
Sebastian
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-10 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-06 13:04 [PATCH v4] kernel/fork: beware of __put_task_struct calling context Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 14:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-02-06 15:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-02-06 16:04 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-02-06 16:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-02-10 16:48 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-02-06 18:36 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 18:34 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 18:32 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-07 1:09 ` Andrew Morton
2023-02-07 15:26 ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-10 17:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
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