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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sultan@kerneltoast.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 12:32:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y0RlQi/72JrfW3df@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgGc7MYRW=vXyY-m_r9c7-_i8k1nsHM0RuJw_9qZWWP9g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Linus,

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 10:48:42AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 10:45 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> >
> > - The original jitter algorithm intended (I believe) to schedule the timer for
> >   the next jiffy, not the next-next jiffy, yet it used mod_timer(jiffies + 1),
> >   which will fire on the next-next jiffy, instead of what I believe was
> >   intended, mod_timer(jiffies), which will fire on the next jiffy. So fix
> >   that. (If you did actually intend the next-next jiffy for this voodoo, let
> >   me know and I'll happily send you a new pull.)
> 
> Just as long as you verified that yes, it will actually do the next timer.
> 
> At some point we had timer logic that went "trigger timer callback
> immediately if it was in the past". I didn't want to have to worry
> about that, this the "jiffies + 1".
> 
> I suspect we long ago got rid of that "trigger immediately" because of
> deadlocks, and that I was just being a worry-wart about behavior that
> we haven't had for decades, so your patch looks fine. But you might
> want to make sure.

I checked this and it works. Sultan and I jumped pretty far down the
timers rabbit hole in the process of investigating 748bc4dd9e66
("random: use expired timer rather than wq for mixing fast pool"). If
you grep the kernel, expiring at "jiffies" is a fairly common pattern
too.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-10 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-03 17:44 [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1 Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-10 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-10 18:32   ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-10-10 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-10 18:37   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-10 18:48 ` pr-tracker-bot

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