From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
Cc: "mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
rohit.k.jain@oracle.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com,
vschneid@redhat.com, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regression on vcpu_is_preempted()
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:23:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y10bPHJh7g+4OW4k@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d00f7b30-4b34-3d3d-98c5-d0db1a5d9c4f@huawei.com>
On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 05:15:15PM +0800, Miaohe Lin wrote:
> On 2022/10/29 16:58, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 04:48:21PM +0800, Miaohe Lin wrote:
> >> When scheduler tries to select a CPU to run the gc thread,
> >> available_idle_cpu() will check whether vcpu_is_preempted(). It
> >> will choose other vcpu to run gc threads when the current vcpu is
> >> preempted. But the preempted vcpu has no other work to do except
> >> continuing to do gc. In our guest, there are more vcpus than java gc
> >> threads. So there could always be some available vcpus when
> >> scheduler tries to select a idle vcpu (runing on host). This leads
> >> to lots of cpu migrations and results in regression.
> >>
> >> I'm not really familiar with this mechanism. Is this a problem that
> >> needs to be fixed or improved? Or is this just expected behavior?
> >> Any response would be really appreciated!
> >
> > This is pretty much expected behaviour. When a vCPU is preempted the
> > guest cannot know it's state or latency. Typically in the overcomitted
> > case another vCPU will be running on the CPU and getting our vCPU thread
> > back will take a considerable amount of time.
>
> I see. Many thanks for your kindly reply and explanation. :)
>
> >
> > If you know you're not over-committed, perhaps you should configure your
> > VM differently.
>
> Do you have any suggestion about how should I configure my VM when it's not over-committed?
I'm not an expert on VMs, but IIRC when you construct a pinned VM (ie.
1:1 vCPU:CPU relations) this all goes away.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-29 12:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-28 8:48 Regression on vcpu_is_preempted() Miaohe Lin
2022-10-28 10:21 ` Abel Wu
2022-10-29 2:27 ` Miaohe Lin
2022-10-29 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-29 9:15 ` Miaohe Lin
2022-10-29 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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