From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Clear ttwu_pending after enqueue_task
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 11:01:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2Hdkkp4mYK+fjDP@chenyu5-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2E0TeFJorjOXikX@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 2022-11-01 at 15:59:25 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 09:51:25PM +0800, Chen Yu wrote:
>
> > > Could you try the below instead? Also note the comment; since you did
> > > the work to figure out why -- best record that for posterity.
> > >
> > > @@ -3737,6 +3730,13 @@ void sched_ttwu_pending(void *arg)
> > > set_task_cpu(p, cpu_of(rq));
> > >
> > > ttwu_do_activate(rq, p, p->sched_remote_wakeup ? WF_MIGRATED : 0, &rf);
> > > + /*
> > > + * Must be after enqueueing at least once task such that
> > > + * idle_cpu() does not observe a false-negative -- if it does,
> > > + * it is possible for select_idle_siblings() to stack a number
> > > + * of tasks on this CPU during that window.
> > > + */
> > > + WRITE_ONCE(rq->ttwu_pending, 0);
> > Just curious why do we put above code inside llist_for_each_entry_safe loop?
>
> > My understanding is that once 1 task is queued, select_idle_cpu() would not
> > treat this rq as idle anymore because nr_running is not 0. But would this bring
> > overhead to write the rq->ttwu_pending multiple times, do I miss something?
>
> So the consideration is that by clearing it late, you might also clear a
> next set; consider something like:
>
>
> cpu0 cpu1 cpu2
>
> ttwu_queue()
> ->ttwu_pending = 1;
> llist_add()
>
> sched_ttwu_pending()
> llist_del_all()
> ... long ...
> ttwu_queue()
> ->ttwu_pending = 1
> llist_add()
>
> ... time ...
> ->ttwu_pending = 0
>
> Which leaves you with a non-empty list but with ttwu_pending == 0.
>
Thanks for the explaination, in theory the race windows could
be shrinked but could not be closed due to ttwu_pending is
not protected by lock in ttwu_queue() -> __ttwu_queue_wakelist()
I suppose.
> But I suppose that's not actually better with my variant, since it keeps
> writing 0s. We can make it more complicated again, but perhaps it
> doesn't matter and your version is good enough.
I see, although I'm not the author of this patch :)
thanks,
Chenyu
>
> But please update with a comment on why it needs to be after
> ttwu_do_activate().
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-02 3:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-01 7:36 [PATCH] sched: Clear ttwu_pending after enqueue_task Tianchen Ding
2022-11-01 10:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-01 13:51 ` Chen Yu
2022-11-01 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-02 3:01 ` Chen Yu [this message]
2022-11-02 6:40 ` Tianchen Ding
2022-11-02 6:40 ` Tianchen Ding
2022-11-04 2:36 ` [PATCH v2] " Tianchen Ding
2022-11-04 8:00 ` Chen Yu
2022-11-14 15:27 ` Mel Gorman
2022-11-16 9:22 ` [tip: sched/core] sched: Clear ttwu_pending after enqueue_task() tip-bot2 for Tianchen Ding
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