From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
bristot@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/core: Minor optimize ttwu_runnable()
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:11:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2odVSwrCSI2LW2m@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhtu3an4jl.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>
On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 03:54:38PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> So that's the part for the p->sched_class->task_woken() callback, which
> only affects RT and DL (and only does something when !p->on_cpu). I *think*
> it's fine to remove it from ttwu_runnable() as any push/pull should have
> happened when other tasks were enqueued on the same CPU - with that said,
> it wouldn't hurt to double check this :-)
>
>
> As for the check_preempt_curr(), since per the above p can be preempted,
> you could have scenarios right now with CFS tasks where
> ttwu_runnable()->check_preempt_curr() causes NEED_RESCHED to be set.
>
> e.g. p0 does
>
> set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)
>
> but then gets interrupted by the tick, a p1 gets selected to run instead
> because of check_preempt_tick(), and then runs long enough to have
> check_preempt_curr() decide to let p0 preempt p1.
>
> That does require specific timing (lower tick frequency should make this
> more likely) and probably task niceness distribution too, but isn't
> impossible.
>
> Maybe try reading p->on_cpu, and only do the quick task state update if
> it's still the current task, otherwise do the preemption checks?
I'm confused...
So all relevant parties take rq->lock:
- __schedule()
- scheduler_tick()
- ttwu_runnable()
So if ttwu_runnable() sees on_rq and switches state back to RUNNING then
neither check_preempt_curr() nor task_woken() make any sense.
Specifically:
- you can't very well preempt yourself (which is what
check_preempt_curr() is trying to determine -- if the woken task
should preempt the running task, they're both the same in this case);
- the task did not actually wake up, because it was still on the
runqueue to begin with. This path prevents a sleep, rather than
issues a wakeup.
So yes, I think the patch as proposed is ok.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-08 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-02 10:23 [PATCH] sched/core: Minor optimize ttwu_runnable() Chengming Zhou
2022-11-04 18:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-05 1:34 ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-07 12:56 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-07 13:19 ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-07 15:54 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-08 7:38 ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-08 9:11 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-11-08 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 11:17 ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-08 9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
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