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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/core: Minor optimize ttwu_runnable()
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:11:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2odVSwrCSI2LW2m@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhtu3an4jl.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>

On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 03:54:38PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:

> So that's the part for the p->sched_class->task_woken() callback, which
> only affects RT and DL (and only does something when !p->on_cpu). I *think*
> it's fine to remove it from ttwu_runnable() as any push/pull should have
> happened when other tasks were enqueued on the same CPU - with that said,
> it wouldn't hurt to double check this :-)
> 
> 
> As for the check_preempt_curr(), since per the above p can be preempted,
> you could have scenarios right now with CFS tasks where
> ttwu_runnable()->check_preempt_curr() causes NEED_RESCHED to be set.
> 
> e.g. p0 does
> 
>   set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)
> 
> but then gets interrupted by the tick, a p1 gets selected to run instead
> because of check_preempt_tick(), and then runs long enough to have
> check_preempt_curr() decide to let p0 preempt p1.
> 
> That does require specific timing (lower tick frequency should make this
> more likely) and probably task niceness distribution too, but isn't
> impossible.
> 
> Maybe try reading p->on_cpu, and only do the quick task state update if
> it's still the current task, otherwise do the preemption checks?

I'm confused...

So all relevant parties take rq->lock:

 - __schedule()
 - scheduler_tick()
 - ttwu_runnable()

So if ttwu_runnable() sees on_rq and switches state back to RUNNING then
neither check_preempt_curr() nor task_woken() make any sense.

Specifically:

 - you can't very well preempt yourself (which is what
   check_preempt_curr() is trying to determine -- if the woken task
   should preempt the running task, they're both the same in this case);

 - the task did not actually wake up, because it was still on the
   runqueue to begin with. This path prevents a sleep, rather than
   issues a wakeup.

So yes, I think the patch as proposed is ok.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-08  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02 10:23 [PATCH] sched/core: Minor optimize ttwu_runnable() Chengming Zhou
2022-11-04 18:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-05  1:34   ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-07 12:56     ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-07 13:19       ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-07 15:54         ` Valentin Schneider
2022-11-08  7:38           ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-08  9:11           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-11-08 10:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 11:17               ` Chengming Zhou
2022-11-08  9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra

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